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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1265152)
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, .... I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise. :) Delta Air Lines enjoyed strong revenue growth during 2Q2012 as demand remained steady despite the negative macro economic headlines from Europe that continue to fuel global jitters. The carrier’s forward bookings for 3Q2012 indicate both corporate and leisure demand is holding steady despite underlying economic uncertainty. But as the carrier’s revenue performance continues to be strong, Delta is facing steady cost headwinds throughout the remainder of the year as a result of capacity cuts and product investments that the carrier assures will produce margin gains in the future. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1265190)
You also never answered an earlier question, so I'll ask it again. Had Delta remained independent, would you still be on the 767 flying to Amman, Cairo, Berlin, etc? Would DAL still be serving Cape Town, Mumbai non stop, etc?
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As a Comair guy, I'm a firm believer that Anderson puts profits ahead of employees. That's what a CEO does. But you need to find a balance.
When he sits on the corner of Woolman's desk and proclaims "Our people are our greatest strength" Big Chief Anderson talk with forked tongue. He says he values Delta pilots, but he values you most when he needs a slot swap pushed through or relief from 50-seat leases. What I hear Bar saying, is that Anderson wouldn't shed a tear if his next deal put every Delta pilot on the street. Not very Woolmany. You guys are saying "Delta is the best because Anderson is brilliant" To which Bar basically says "He may be brilliant, but he sold his grandma for a dollar" And now you guys are jumping on Bar with "Dude, don't you realize that grandmas are only worth 80 cents these days?" |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1265192)
Well, according to what I've read, our capacity reductions have been preemptive and we have not lost money in Europe. We've ceded market. Here's Mr. Bastian's take on it, through June of this year:My point is not considerably different than his, other than we could improve our cost metrics and collect more revenue if we held some of our proactive reductions in abeyance.
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Originally Posted by boog123
(Post 1265183)
So when is hiring starting and when can we expect an AE with huge upward movement?
"Let’s start with overall staffing. On the heels of the majority of the 191 RMA participants retiring on the first of October, we’re seeing the first wave of age 65 mandatory retirements beginning to occur. In 2013, 60 pilots will reach the mandatory retirement age; within the next 10 years, 3,299 pilots will reach age 65. Just to remain status quo in our staffing -- and not factoring in new aircraft requirements – we’re faced with hiring a minimum of 3,500 new pilots over the next ten years. One of the top ten questions I get asked is when will Delta start hiring pilots again. As of right now, we are adequately staffed for the summer of 2013. This means that unless Network decides to significantly increase our summer flying, we’re not planning on hiring until late 2013 to ramp up for flying in 2014. However, if past experience holds true, it’s unlikely that all pilots slated to retire over the next 10 years will choose to fly until age 65. Therefore, Crew Resources and Scheduling will closely monitor our staffing levels on a monthly basis to ensure we stay ahead of the retirement wave and don’t find ourselves short-staffed." |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1265193)
It's a stupid speculative question that neither of us can prove. Heck, my guess is you would be a 787 Captain and I'd be at the car wash washing the Ferrari you bought your mistress after your last 15 day green slip with conflict.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1265195)
So did EB come from NWA? And why do you think we ceded the market? Because we were making money, and they just wanted to screw us? Our management team is very smart. Most have been following our lead. What does that say?
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1265197)
Really? Speculative? Review the global economy since 2008 and ask yourself again. It's hardly speculative. You're on here every week taking about the global economy Bar. You know just as well as everyone else. To sit and point the finger for all things bad at NWA is pure BS, and you know it.
My best guess would be an extrapolation of previous trend data and in fact, that is mostly what has occurred. Despite the fact Airlines are the economic equivalent of the proverbial canaries in the coal mine, our merger was hugely stabilizing. If you want to argue Delta's brief growth spurt between bankruptcy and merger were an aberration above a mean, OK. The data just isn't available outside of an NDA. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1265194)
As a Comair guy, I'm a firm believer that Anderson puts profits ahead of employees. That's what a CEO does. But you need to find a balance.
When he sits on the corner of Woolman's desk and proclaims "Our people are our greatest strength" Big Chief Anderson talk with forked tongue. He says he values Delta pilots, but he values you most when he needs a slot swap pushed through or relief from 50-seat leases. What I hear Bar saying, is that Anderson wouldn't shed a tear if his next deal put every Delta pilot on the street. Not very Woolmany. You guys are saying "Delta is the best because Anderson is brilliant" To which Bar basically says "He may be brilliant, but he sold his grandma for a dollar" And now you guys are jumping on Bar with "Dude, don't you realize that grandmas are only worth 80 cents these days?" Well said. I especially like the reference to the Safety video. Since we're apparently cutting 30 seconds, I'm hoping the part where "he gets to sit at Woolman's desk everyday" gets left on the cutting room floor. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1265190)
That's all you've got? Growth in Boston? Is Delta the only airline who has pulled back in BOS? How is our CASM compared to JB?
You also never answered an earlier question, so I'll ask it again. Had Delta remained independent, would you still be on the 767 flying to Amman, Cairo, Berlin, etc? Would DAL still be serving Cape Town, Mumbai non stop, etc? |
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