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Superpilot92 09-22-2012 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1265028)
I can paste a picture of Spock, but all I get is a red X where Elle McPherson, my key to Australian citizenship, should be.

SPOCK

http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-co...se-tonight.jpg

Superpilot92 09-22-2012 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1264939)
No way. That would not be a good move. They have all the UAL pilots they just brought back and many of them are slightly older than you and have been furloughed for ten years. That picture is not as prett as some paint.

Oh I won't be trying, like I said I'm too invested and feel I'm in a good spot here (projected in top 10 someday *assuming delta stays alone and in business of course*). With that said I could see a guy looking at it as an option if the potential outcome were even remotely similar which for me they are not.

LivingTheDream 09-23-2012 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264869)
Let me guess ... made Captain before the year 2000 when the "outsourcing is good" leadership team took over?

Look to your right and tell me, how green is that grass?
We have more in common with the Comair pilots than anyone at the Company who does not fly an airplane for a living.

Nope. 16yr right seater. Who has a better mgmt team as of today?

scambo1 09-23-2012 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1265083)
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Interesting, no smiley.

johnso29 09-23-2012 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1265049)
Not saying you're wrong, but it does get a little old hearing about how two guys at the top are so smart, yet in one case we just seem to be spinning our wheels as a company, and the other as a nation. But hey, they're really, really, really ridiculously smart so it's just us dummies who don't get it.

Perhaps we are spinning our wheels as a company because right now there is simply no place to go? From what I've seen, the global economy is still very shaky. Is there really justification in expanding right now?

I agree that it's frustrating, but I for one am thankful our management team looks forward. I'm glad they're proactive, rather then reactive. If not for that, I think things could be much more painful.

Bucking Bar 09-23-2012 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1265087)
Nope. 16yr right seater. Who has a better mgmt team as of today?

So which is it? Did you make an "error" listing yourself as an ER A, or in your post above?

Do you equate capacity reductions, market shrinkage and increasing costs with "success" ?

Do you believe our stock performance is just the result of every one else just not getting what you perceive?

If I were former NWA I would probably see things a bit differently. After all, Northwest management has maintained their strategic direction.

Also, there is a difference between "well run" amd good to work for. US Air frequently surprises me with their better than expected performance, but I would not work there if that was the last flying job on planet. Delta is a good employer and offers a good product ... bit the same could be said for a number of once greats like Sears and Kodak.

Bucking Bar 09-23-2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1265083)
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If you do not have an example to back that up then your post is flame bait on the highest order. I suggest users flag your post and assign appropriate penalties.

slowplay 09-23-2012 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1265132)
So which is it? Did you make an "error" listing yourself as an ER A, or in your post above?

He said that he was a 24 year employee, 16 of which were spent in the right seat. Comprende?


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1265132)
There are a number of airlines which are better run than Delta. Do you believe our stock performance is just the result of every one else just not getting what you perceive?

Maybe you ought to look at the fundamentals of the airline (things like debt, etc.) and find your answer. Then compare it with the trend vectors of our competitive set. It might help your bipolar view.;)

Bucking Bar 09-23-2012 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1265137)
He said that he was a 24 year employee, 16 of which were spent in the right seat. Comprende?


Then he is exactly as I described, having got his before the outsourcing is good coaches changed the game. Gracias :)

johnso29 09-23-2012 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1265132)
So which is it? Did you make an "error" listing yourself as an ER A, or in your post above?

Do you equate capacity reductions, market shrinkage and increasing costs with "success" ?

Do you believe our stock performance is just the result of every one else just not getting what you perceive?

If I were former NWA I would probably see things a bit differently. After all, Northwest management has maintained their strategic direction.

Also, there is a difference between "well run" amd good to work for. US Air frequently surprises me with their better than expected performance, but I would not work there if that was the last flying job on planet. Delta is a good employer and offers a good product ... bit the same could be said for a number of once greats like Sears and Kodak.

It's really quite simple. Had DAL remained independent and maintained it's planned international expansion, it would've spelled disaster for you. You'd likely still be on furlough. I likely would've been furloughed from NWA too. The merger made one company better together then the two companies apart. It's simply undeniable.

Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?

The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently it's just not my time.

I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise. :)


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