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acl65pilot 09-22-2012 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1264940)
No doubt by 2015 things will be peachy and mass retirements will make all of us kings.
In the interim the mainline fleet stands at 722, so the projected growth will net 74 added airframes in the next 3 years and the commensurate additional manning. If the T&G is to be believed it's 14 bodies per jet, at any rate somewhere between 800-1000 extra pilot will be needed to fly the additional jets. (that figure of course is reduced by the number of excess pilots currently carried)

But back to that presentation subject to SEC rules - make sure to see all of the filings and presentations. Contrary to SD's explanation, the capacity cuts are not proportionally shared across the JV partners as is illustrated in this Delta slide from the Bank of America Investors conference a year ago:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/Casm.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/cuts.jpg
Delta Slide above,
Expanded view of projections below:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/capacity.jpg

I'm excited about the 74 growth airframes by 2015. but I'm also under no illusion that in the interim we will have some dry spells as far as career advancement. If you sit on a jet and a seat at a base that works for you life is good and will get better. If you don't, your light at the end of the tunnel just got a little dimmer with JG's weekly update pushing hiring to late 2013, possibly 2014. That assesment stands in contrast with the assertion from SD in an earlier weekly update where he suggested we "may...begin...preparations...for hiring...as soon as later this year...subject to the network plan." The suggestion was we will hire this year with some possible exceptions. That isn't the message currently coming from FlightOps leadership...

It feels a little like talking to a guy you lent money to. He's an honest guy but comes up with a new excuse every time you hit him up. You know he is a man of his word and will eventually make good on the debt, but the excuses of why not now, and the promises of payback just around the cover, make you leery of his current promises...


Cheers
George


George have the projected block hr plan for summer 2013 changed from early this year to post TA?

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1264945)
Its the two times I was hired at Fedex and didn't leave that bugs me.:D

Understood, and the folks over at FedEx are great.

Delta is a good place to work, don't get me wrong. It is frustrating to sit and watch medallion milers get bumped for five hours,* and those scheduled take a down grade to coach just to get on oversold Delta jets. I know we are after a 10% plus margin, but we are really leaving a lot of money at the airport and spilling to our competitors.

* SBDM program

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1264950)
George have the projected block hr plan for summer 2013 changed from early this year to post TA?

If he's got it, send it to Steve Dickson.

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1264872)

We are moving from a larger gauge to smaller gauge. It takes more 737's to perform the work of 757's & 767's. The 717 is partially recapture and mostly replacement. Do you really question whether the footprint of Delta Air Line's network is getting smaller, post merger?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/capacity.jpg

acl65pilot 09-22-2012 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264952)
If he's got it, send it to Steve Dickson.

Bar, I said projected. Like ya know, the projections they make at the Raymond James Investor call. Was there a drop in the block asm plan from prior to the TA being reached?


Why do you think they are delaying the plan?

Boomer 09-22-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264869)
We have more in common with the Comair pilots than anyone at the Company who does not fly an airplane for a living.

For example, both Comair and Delta pilots hang out here Saturday nights waiting for Jesse and Superpilot to post their latest underboob discoveries.

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1264956)
Why do you think they are delaying the plan?

Mayans said so.

Boomer 09-22-2012 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264979)
Indecision is key to operational flexibility.

Hesitation is death - Thomas Kazansky

Boomer 09-22-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1264865)
These guys are playing 4 dimensional klingon chess.

That would be Vulcan chess...
http://vulcanstev.files.wordpress.co...mo-3d-cess.jpg

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1264981)
Hesitation is death - Thomas Kazansky

The mark of the leader is the ability to make decisions. The mark of the survivor is knowing when not to.

Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you could survive the odds beating you.


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