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Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1264860)
Actually, I disagree. To effectively compete with UAL as they move forward, DAL is going to need to grow and grow with large gauge jets. If they don't they will be marginalized ...

Actually, the decision to reduce our feed fits with the reduced mainline route network. Our code share partners fill the gap on the high end.

johnso29 09-22-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1264865)
I feel sorry for anyone who jumps ship at this point.

Although I am very dis-satisfied with our compensation, this is by far the sharpest mgmt team I have seen in 24yrs. Will they make mistakes? Who doesn't. But, I don't believe there is another team out there that even comes close.

Btw, according to a very high level network guy, narrow body plan nearly complete... next stop, wide body plan.

After the "left seat" symposium, it was very clear our team have back-up plans to the back-up plan. These guys are playing 4 dimensional klingon chess. (I believe the trainer deal will be just one example of what our team is capable.)

While ual has the best network, their merger is not going well and in my opinion will only get worst. Same with sw.

Good luck to the guys/gals that jump ship to the ual team or any other team, including sw (with the exception of fedex... due to their monopoly).

The grass isn't always greener.

I strongly agree. As I said in an earlier post, RA is a very smart businessman. He will make things work. DAL is already years ahead of everyone. UAL still has a long way to go.

Bucking Bar 09-22-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1264865)
I feel sorry for anyone who jumps ship at this point. ...The grass isn't always greener.

Let me guess ... made Captain before the year 2000 when the "outsourcing is good" leadership team took over?

Look to your right and tell me, how green is that grass?

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1264868)
I strongly agree. As I said in an earlier post, RA is a very smart businessman. He will make things work.

We have more in common with the Comair pilots than anyone at the Company who does not fly an airplane for a living.

johnso29 09-22-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264867)
Actually, the decision to reduce our feed fits with the reduced mainline route network. Our code share partners fill the gap on the high end.

What about this??? :)


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Doug Masters 09-22-2012 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1264869)
Let me guess ... made Captain before the year 2000 when the "outsourcing is good" leadership team took over our union?

Look to your right and tell me, how green is that grass?

Where is this grass you speak of? Looks like a desert to me...

slowplay 09-22-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1264698)
With ual about to hire, they'll get a jump on dal with hiring the top applicants. Come on dal, get to moving!

I don't think they're worried about that...they're still trying to recover from the "top applicants" they got since 2006...:D

gloopy 09-22-2012 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1264432)
So they are now calling 'economy comfort' a separate class, sounds like a marketing thing.

I've sat in those seats when deadheadding, they are the exact same coach seats that everyone behind you is sitting in, with no additional meal or drink service, same as coach. I guess if you have really long legs, you'd pay extra for that, but otherwise, I see little difference than all the other coach seats.

But then some people stand in a long line for a $5 cup of coffee too. :rolleyes:

I heard its been doing quite well. Especially on the planes that didn't require a seat reduction. And even if it does, that's "reducing capacity" or whatever. Yeah I know.

People have been willing to pay for that product finally. It might have to do with the airline's pushback and marketing take back against the discount ticket clearing houses. Either way, UAL and JB started doing it a couple years ago and it flat out worked. Free extra revenue, the best kind of revenue, and more options for customers.

TANSTAAFL 09-22-2012 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 1264734)
I just read the "Weekly Update" on DNET, and as of right now, Delta is adequately staffed. No plans to hire until late 2013 for the 2014 schedule.:confused:

According to notes out of recent base meetings we may have a surplus of 320 F/Os due to decrease utilization and displacements to the 88.

Also comment that hiring will be driven by DC9s sticking around longer and that we don't need to hire soon due to increased ALVs in the new PWA.

76drvr 09-22-2012 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1264872)

Johnso29, don't let that SEC filing get in the way rhetoric and pseudo analysis. This is after all a forum.:)

APCLurker 09-22-2012 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1264821)
Fantastic. Why is hiring always "next" year and why is the big bid always the bid after this coming one?


Same propaganda, different day.

And we keep eating it up.


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