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johnso29 09-23-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1265255)
From JG's weekly update:

"Depending on the outcome of the push for more HND slots, we could see Network pursue additional Narita over-flight opportunities."

Not a good sign for the NRT operation.

Why? Because the company is smart enough to have audibles ready to call?

johnso29 09-23-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1265250)
I won't comment on the rest of the post but my "crystal ball" says there will be more than one more displacement in the future, at least off the domestic 767. When Delta starts parking 757's as we are getting 737-900's, where do you think the displacements are going to come from? In my mind the domestic 767 is the, for lack of a better word, "perfect" category to cover these displacements. The company wants to get rid of the category here is a taylor made way to get rid of the category......:mad:

Denny


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1265257)
JG said as much in the weekly update.


Depends. For years they've been saying they'll let the category die off naturally. They want to avoid displacements as much as possible to soften the training cycle blows. Only time will tell.

sailingfun 09-23-2012 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1265184)
Jet Blue for one has enjoyed our retreat from Boston.

http://centreforaviation.com/images/...us_Q2_2012.png

Actually jetblues growth in Boston has been a almost route for route swap of AMR's flying. aMR drops a route a JB picks it up the next day under the marketing agreement with AMR.

The Cavalier 09-23-2012 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1265260)
What difference did a PWA vote have on the company placing additonal aircraft into service in mid-late 2013 (that would necessitate new pilot hiring)?

Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....

Changes in the reserve rules certainly didn't increase the chance we will hire.

MrBojangles 09-23-2012 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1265260)
What difference did a PWA vote have on the company placing additonal aircraft into service in mid-late 2013 (that would necessitate new pilot hiring)?

Not sure how you see hiring at an earlier point without a new deal.....

Because even ALPA came out and said the changes to work rules resulted in the need for 250 less pilots (I realize that number changed a few times throughout the road shows). We most certainly would have needed to hire to staff the 717's if we hadn't monkeyed around with the reserve utilization.

forgot to bid 09-23-2012 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1265266)
Some thought if we did not allow additional reserve utilization the Company would have been forced to hire for Summer 13 flying, which would mean a spool up about now.

However, there are a whole bunch of variables no one knew precisely (how many early outs, summer 13 block, etc)

or we had to reduce the number of pilots in each category to pay for the pay raises, eh?

qball 09-23-2012 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1265194)
As a Comair guy, I'm a firm believer that Anderson puts profits ahead of employees. That's what a CEO does. But you need to find a balance.

When he sits on the corner of Woolman's desk and proclaims "Our people are our greatest strength" Big Chief Anderson talk with forked tongue.

He says he values Delta pilots, but he values you most when he needs a slot swap pushed through or relief from 50-seat leases.

What I hear Bar saying, is that Anderson wouldn't shed a tear if his next deal put every Delta pilot on the street. Not very Woolmany.

You guys are saying "Delta is the best because Anderson is brilliant"

To which Bar basically says "He may be brilliant, but he sold his grandma for a dollar"

And now you guys are jumping on Bar with "Dude, don't you realize that grandmas are only worth 80 cents these days?"

RA is a shrewd operator and he knows this business to a greater extent than some other airline CEO's IMHO. Let us not forget his pedigree though.

Also...80 cents was worth more a few years ago.:)

boog123 09-23-2012 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1265301)
Actually jetblues growth in Boston has been a almost route for route swap of AMR's flying. aMR drops a route a JB picks it up the next day under the marketing agreement with AMR.

Would you be able to provide us with dates that AA pulled down a route and the date the JB started the dates, and exactly which routes, frequencies were switched. Thanks.

gloopy 09-23-2012 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1265190)
That's all you've got? Growth in Boston? Is Delta the only airline who has pulled back in BOS? How is our CASM compared to JB?


You also never answered an earlier question, so I'll ask it again. Had Delta remained independent, would you still be on the 767 flying to Amman, Cairo, Berlin, etc? Would DAL still be serving Cape Town, Mumbai non stop, etc?

We're giving JB another 50% (yes, 50%) BOS growth next year too. We've flat out surrendered that market to them. If their magical CASM is the factor, then look out because they have that CASM everywhere.

But CASM is only as good as the RASM it rode in on, and in that respect we are in a very good position to take it to them and other LCC's with their massive growth narrowbody order books. Instead, we raise our CASM while paying to mitigate theirs by gifting them capacity because their CASM is lower.

Is that sustainable? If so, how? If not, where's the trend vector really going?

gloopy 09-23-2012 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1265301)
Actually jetblues growth in Boston has been a almost route for route swap of AMR's flying. aMR drops a route a JB picks it up the next day under the marketing agreement with AMR.

That's partially true. But DL still gifted them a terminal they wouldn't have otherwise been able to get into, overbuilt its own terminal, pumped it full of regionals then retreated while JB pounced and absolutely dominated one of the best markets in the country. If it was merely AA replacement, there would be an empty terminal there somewhere that is currently full. DL could have, and should have, replaced epic fail regional capacity in BOS with mainline service and marketing equal to what JB has done and DL would own that market.

They've even spit on SWA's shoes, stepped up to them and said "this is our town and you ain't gonna do crap about it." But its cheaper to gift capacity to someone else. At least in the short term.


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