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FIIGMO 09-15-2012 08:16 PM

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if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

Fiig

Superpilot92 09-15-2012 09:18 PM

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scambo1 09-15-2012 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1261637)
if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

Fiig

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say yours crossed the political line.

For me, it was such a lob pitch, I almost swung.

buzzpat 09-15-2012 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1261606)
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.:confused:

So, you work for Delta but you are not Delta. They vs. you. That's pretty telling. Support the company or don't. Your choice. I choose to be Delta and proudly am an employee. I get paid to fly airplanes also...Delta pays me. I'm assuming Delta pays you and you wear your Delta uniform.

And it's "their" not "their."

Columbia 09-15-2012 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1261648)


acl65pilot 09-16-2012 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1261637)
if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

Fiig

It was way past the line political. I was out the door yesterday am and Jude deleted yours and the reply to it. I guess I could have given An I fraction to ya, but just opted to delete the post.

TANSTAAFL 09-16-2012 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1261606)
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.:confused:

Most of the hiring and growth prognostications with LGA were generated by the MEC, Lee Moak in particular.

This is a different animal - the prosperity of our immediate futures is tied to Asia, and HND is in the cross hairs at the moment. Getting the SEA-HND slot won't nessicarily net us jobs, but losing it might cost us jobs, or slow down growth at the least. If the Japanese get away with isolating US flag carriers from HND while they use it as a primary O&D international port, the remaining beach and transfer traffic out of NRT will result in a huge pullback from Japan. Eventual 787 overflights will still not recapture the O&D we get with Fifth Freedom rights.

If we don't get access to HND and the international O&D I would anticipate furloughs, stagnation, and hiring pushed back for years until retirements eat up the difference. :eek:

acl65pilot 09-16-2012 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1261676)
Most of the hiring and growth prognostications with LGA were generated by the MEC, Lee Moak in particular.

This is a different animal - the prosperity of our immediate futures is tied to Asia, and HND is in the cross hairs at the moment. Getting the SEA-HND slot won't nessicarily net us jobs, but losing it might cost us jobs, or slow down growth at the least. If the Japanese get away with isolating US flag carriers from HND while they use it as a primary O&D international port, the remaining beach and transfer traffic out of NRT will result in a huge pullback from Japan. Eventual 787 overflights will still not recapture the O&D we get with Fifth Freedom rights.

If we don't get access to HND and the international O&D I would anticipate furloughs, stagnation, and hiring pushed back for years until retirements eat up the difference. :eek:

Sadly I agree with this. It would at a min require 600 less pilots. (just my guess based on block and credit hrs to and from and intra Asia that would be lost.

sailingfun 09-16-2012 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1261606)
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.:confused:

You clearly have not followed the ongoing growth in NYC. Your post is out of date and not correct. The initial round which consisted mostly of replacing small USAIR turboprops was heavily weighted to RJ's. No surprise there. Phase two however was almost all mainline and since then many routes from phase one have upgraded to mainline flights. Its expected when the 717 comes online there will be additional upgrades. Overall we added a substantial number of mainline block hours. Block hours equal jobs. More block hours equals more jobs and advancement which means higher pay.
My career is essentially set in stone now. Delta will get me to retirement so I really have no big stake in future expansion. I doubt however you can say the same. You might want to think a bit about your future.

nerd2009 09-16-2012 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1261678)
Sadly I agree with this. It would at a min require 600 less pilots. (just my guess based on block and credit hrs to and from and intra Asia that would be lost.


Totally agree with you.

Capex is very easy, the letter is already composed, just submit your info and send. That's it.

This is a big deal for us, we all need to respond. Not to mention that American is pushing for this as well.


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