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Makes sense that our MEC knows nothing about the details of an agreement with Delta management that they did not participate in.

I plan to ask my Rep who, if anyone, represents the Delta line pilot.

Reroute is correct. There was a fleet agreement, not a LOA per se signed by The Delta CEO, JC Lawson, OH President and Prater in early March 2007. Those were the individuals on the signature pages. It provided a fleet agreement for their pilots until 2011.

After this PNCL agreement came out, the mention of this agreement was the first time I had ever heard about it, but it does exist and I have read it myself.

It also was an agreement with Delta Management, OH Management and ALPA on a guaranteed number of RJ Hulls of the permitted aircraft as allowed by the Delta PWA.

You obviously have VERY LITTLE faith in the elected reps. If they felt the code-a-phone message was inappropriate, a special meeting would have been called before now. Unless you are accusing Kingsley of doing the same thing you accused Lee... and Tim....and....xxx and xxx.... of.

When will it stop?

When will some on here admit that the MEC makes the decisions, and we may not always agree with their collective decision, but that is how a representational democracy works??? And it also smacks of complete, utter, arrogance, to continue to claim that I am right, and EVERYONE else is wrong, and its a grand conspiracy by EVERYONE else involved.

Let it go. Your elected leaders have spoken.

Well if the "letter" exists than we appear to have a conundrum. Either the letter does not say what people think it says or someone is not telling the truth.

There could in fact be such a letter and perhaps its contents, known to only a select few, have been shall we say embellished?

"Quite the conundrum."

Seinfeld


Scoop :)

I recall in 2003 an elected leader said major combat operations had ceased in Iraq. It didn't make him right.

Freedom of speech: Any man has the right to say whatever he wants.

Are you advocating for a "Patriot Act" for DALPA members? Maybe it is good to hear dissenting opinions. Did DALPA leaders "break" the story or did they damage control the story?

Absolutely. So just because ONE guy claims something (on this forum, for example), doesn't mean he's right. But if the entire elected body had stated operations had ceased, I'd probably be more prone to believe them, than if just one man is saying it....over and over and over....

I agree completely. But the smart man will, at some point, look in the mirror and wonder if the whole world is wrong, or perhaps if he is. Just my opinion.

DALPA Leaders: Ready....Aim.....Fire.
APC Posters: FIRE.......

Fixed your post.

PG;

I've never needed DALPA for any of the stuff people say they are great at. I hope I never do. I am thankful pilots step up and volunteer their time for the benefit of other pilots. All of that said, I think it is apparent that you and I have a different perspective wrt ALPA. You willingly wrap yourself in the womb of D/ALPA, where I find them often lacking. I don't seek their kinship nor do I need them to stroke my head and tell me I'm a good boy.

If you review this last crisis du jour, I think you will find that DALPA leaders were NOT ready. They were caught off guard. When they aimed and fired, it was not from a position of power, but instead the position lacking of power.

PG,

How have our Reps spoken when a meeting has not been held? Where is the record of their vote?

Where did this "finding" come from? What is the "MEC," without its council members?

O never accused Tim of anything other than not knowing. Haven't accused Kingsley of anything either. This afternoon was the first notice of any action on the matter.

As for "when will it stop," that's easy. Never. Representation is an ongoing fiduciary duty. If you don't like the job, resign and let someone else do it.

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On a slightly different topic, no less than the likes of David Behnke lost in a dispute with ALPA staff. Anyone who does not realize the political power of their office does not know ALPA history.

The one I saw was a tech stop. The published route is MEX TIJ NRT MEX. it's also a 767-200ER. Sorry for the confusion.