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Old 10-12-2012 | 04:24 PM
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Back in ole 2010 it was the last 4 of your ssn, 9999 being senior and 0001 being junior. I mised a Diesel 9 by 1 person.
Old 10-12-2012 | 04:38 PM
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From the contract:

24 5. A furloughed pilot may bypass recall for a period not to exceed ten years from his date of
25 furlough.
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26 6. A recalled pilot who returns to duty and is furloughed again may bypass recall for a
27 period not to exceed ten years from the date of his subsequent furlough.
28 7. A pilot who has bypassed recall will be subject to the following:
29 a. he will be ineligible to receive furlough pay,
30 b. he may only return to duty:
31 1) in conjunction with a subsequent recall or new hire class, and

32 2) if he has notified the Company in writing of his desire to accept recall at least 30
33 days in advance of the class date on which he wishes to return.
34 Note one: The Company is not required to recall pilots in numbers greater than it
35 deems necessary in a new-hire or recall class.
36 Note two: If there are more pilots who have bypassed recall that seek to return to
37 duty than the Company has determined is required, such pilots will be returned to
38 duty, in seniority order and prior to any new hire, in conjunction with Company
39 scheduled new hire or recall classes,
40 and
41 c. his employment will be terminated if he does not return to duty within ten years from
42 his date of furlough.



So... for furlough BYPASS guys (NOT folks who accepted recall then went on long MLOA)... the clock is from 10 years from your date of furlough. The guys first furloughed in the pertinent timeframe were 1 Nov 01, and thus their clock ran out on 1 Nov 11.
I guess the piece of info we need are what were the dates of furloughs after 1 Nov 01? Anyone initially furloughed after 12Oct 2002 is as of today terminated from employment (if they are on furlough bypass). How many folks is that, and how many folks were furloughed after 12 Oct 02 and what dates?

.... somewhat interesting theorizing about seniority list cleanup while waiting for the Nov schedules to come out
Old 10-12-2012 | 04:41 PM
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It was extended for them. This next recall round will be their last chance.
Old 10-12-2012 | 04:49 PM
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My class seniorty was based on how many jars of honey you bought from the ground instructors.....
Old 10-12-2012 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep... And as has been confirmed, that changed from bday to ssn sometime in 2001. Your class, my class, and all those through Aug 07 had the order messed up and was corrected.

I heard it was a gojets guy that made the noise about it as well.
I am fully aware of how they came to the realization seniority was inversely assigned and rectified.
Old 10-12-2012 | 05:36 PM
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Old 10-12-2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I heard it was a gojets guy that made the noise about it as well.
Heard it was an ASA guy whom i know....maybe I should query him!
Old 10-12-2012 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep... Sailing got it very wrong. His jetblue capt friend will have to wait until recall notices go out just in advance to hiring.

It's my understanding that this will be the last chance to come back for the bypass people. Amirite?
Eerily quite from him, on multiple post/queries!
Old 10-12-2012 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It was extended for them. This next recall round will be their last chance.
Yes. I think with the merger they extended recall rights to 14 years.
Old 10-12-2012 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Bummer

I might be late to the party, but I just noticed PPO-A is not being offered this year. I knew it was too good to last.

What to do now, advice please. Family with kids, some medical costs.

TEN
Go to one of the ALPA R&I seminars...

I did, totally worth it, but without the PPOA, I think the new contractual plan (DPMP), is going to look pretty decent.. Only healthcare plan to actually DECREASE in cost for next year, all others went up.

I haven't made up my mind yet, but the seminar and the expertise there is one of the better uses of dues dollars.
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