Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-12-2012, 06:34 AM
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The 200's were going to lose more money than the cost of the new 900's so it's a neutral purchase.
12-12-2012, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
They are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
They are planning to shrink the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
They are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
They are planning to shrink the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-12-2012 at 06:48 AM.
12-12-2012, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 200's were going to lose more money than the cost of the new 900's so it's a neutral purchase.
12-12-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Here is a thought with the JV, if there are 20 flgihts from JFK-LHR, give AA/BA a wink wink and take our 7 from the DL/VA codeshare and knock it down to 4.
Just use 3 VA A380s (instead of 744/346/330/330) and 1 DL 764 or 333 and cut capacity by a crowd pleasing 5% on the route and free those 3 extra slots up!!!!
The good part about that, we don't have to fly the...
Just use 3 VA A380s (instead of 744/346/330/330) and 1 DL 764 or 333 and cut capacity by a crowd pleasing 5% on the route and free those 3 extra slots up!!!!
The good part about that, we don't have to fly the...
12-12-2012, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
12-12-2012, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
12-12-2012, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Off course Delta mainline capacity is projected to be up in the second half of 2013 and up quite a bit in 2014. You knew that of course but choose not to point that out for some reason. System wide capacity including DCI will be flat to down slightly. Personally I could care less that DCI is getting a big cut while the mainline is growing.
But, you never answered your post stating that we should excuse the deficit in our production balance with Air France ... I'm really interested in your explanation.
According to management's own projections, they have no intention of complying. It would take something like an increase from 45 to 56 or 57% of the available EASK's.
What part of our contract should we not seek compliance with and how much is "fair" to compensate management for the difficulty they are having restraining themselves as they pay for "our share" of A380 and 777 flying in Air France colors?
Since you're ignoring the question, I'll try to make it less work for you to reply. Kindly select from the choices enumerated below. This is:
- None of your business you junior pilot putz
- Not really happening since the measurement period is a year and a half away and we'll renegotiate before enfocement kicks in
- I don't care. I'm senior to this problem
- YIPPEE, bargaining leverage
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-12-2012 at 07:15 AM.
12-12-2012, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Off course Delta mainline capacity is projected to be up in the second half of 2013 and up quite a bit in 2014.
Last edited by Check Essential; 12-12-2012 at 07:14 AM.
12-12-2012, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Off course Delta mainline capacity is projected to be up in the second half of 2013 and up quite a bit in 2014. You knew that of course but choose not to point that out for some reason. System wide capacity including DCI will be flat to down slightly. Personally I could care less that DCI is getting a big cut while the mainline is growing.
12-12-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
Now, IMHO, the "9,000 pilot force" rumor doesn't seem so ridiculous..
I need some cheerleading, where is Bill?
I need some cheerleading, where is Bill?
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