Bucking Bar

So, is this gentleman flowing to Delta?

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hockeypilot44

Lol. I know him. Went to high school with him. He's still a Pinnacle captain.

slowplay

Are you the same guy that used to talk all the time about "unity" vis a vis ASA and CMR?

If PCL is successful in their reorganization and Delta is the largest creditor, Delta would likely be an owner of a considerable amount of PCL stock...what's different this time?

forgot to bid

So is ATL 767 closing on the next AE for sure or over subsequent AEs?

And if we were to be getting more A32#s, sure seems odd to displace from the jet.

Which is a bummer.

Bucking Bar

Slow,

I supported ASA's request for a policy implementation date based on ALPAs Consitution and Bylaws. I would support Pinnacle's efforts too, although their argument for operational integration is no where near as good. ASA had it's own code*, which Delta acquired when they bought the whole operation. Surely you know the difference between being a shareholder and owning a 121 Certificate within Delta Air Lines, Inc.

A flow through is not unity.

A flow through is just a union facilitated outsourcing scheme.

The criteria is simple. Do they have a Delta seniority number? If not, my MEC has no business meddling in their business.

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History for those unfamiliar. Atlantic Southeast Airlines developed its own routes, had it's own marketing and code. It fed Eastern and after Eastern's demise grew, just as Delta grew, by opportunistically backfilling Eastern's capacity. When acquired by Delta, Delta transferred some of ASA's routes to Delta immediately and stripped ASA of it's code and ticket stock. When ASA was acquired they had BAE jets configured to 120 seats and were evaluating a 737 order. I don't know of another DCI carrier which had a similar history.

As Delta's three man airplanes started to go away there were Delta pilots who were bid restricted Second Officers. We set up a program to train them and let them fly at ASA, allowing them to hold concurrent seniority. We also had a revolving door of managers, safety and flight operations staff. When ASA was acquired within Delta Air Lines. Inc. the ASA MEC filed for ALPA approval to initiate merger protocols. The Delta MEC fought this merger vigorously on the grounds that ASA pilots were not qualified to be Delta pilots making allegations that we were uneducated, drunks and felons. Still nearly every pilot that wanted to got hired at Delta when Delta opened the doors. Truth was, we were qualified.

scambo1

OOOF!

That's gonna leave a mark.

Rogue24

Not sure if that is true. DAL management can agree to a one-way flow with no input from DAL. DALPA does not control hiring. That said, I am told it is guaranteed interviews at a specific rate.

slowplay

That certainly wasn't what you argued regarding Compass...they didn't have Delta seniority numbers either.

Nice straw man. Try again.

forgot to bid

but compass plus had a NWA interview, so yeah they didn't have a number but they had cleared a mainline sanctioned interview and all of them were to flow meaning they would have a number without another interview process, right?

80ktsClamp

There are going to be a few names that will be a gauge to how well it works. A number of the people at the top of the 9E list shouldn't be trusted with flying an airliner...


That being said- why on earth would the majority of the airline vote in a TA that guarantees 60+% of them won't have a job in 2 years?