Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-12-2012 | 06:54 AM
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Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
12-12-2012 | 06:55 AM
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Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
12-12-2012 | 07:01 AM
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Off course Delta mainline capacity is projected to be up in the second half of 2013 and up quite a bit in 2014. You knew that of course but choose not to point that out for some reason. System wide capacity including DCI will be flat to down slightly. Personally I could care less that DCI is getting a big cut while the mainline is growing.
But, you never answered your post stating that we should excuse the deficit in our production balance with Air France ... I'm really interested in your explanation.
According to management's own projections, they have no intention of complying. It would take something like an increase from 45 to 56 or 57% of the available EASK's.
What part of our contract should we not seek compliance with and how much is "fair" to compensate management for the difficulty they are having restraining themselves as they pay for "our share" of A380 and 777 flying in Air France colors?
Since you're ignoring the question, I'll try to make it less work for you to reply. Kindly select from the choices enumerated below. This is:
- None of your business you junior pilot putz
- Not really happening since the measurement period is a year and a half away and we'll renegotiate before enfocement kicks in
- I don't care. I'm senior to this problem
- YIPPEE, bargaining leverage
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-12-2012 at 07:15 AM.
12-12-2012 | 07:03 AM
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12-12-2012 | 07:03 AM
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Off course Delta mainline capacity is projected to be up in the second half of 2013 and up quite a bit in 2014. You knew that of course but choose not to point that out for some reason. System wide capacity including DCI will be flat to down slightly. Personally I could care less that DCI is getting a big cut while the mainline is growing.
12-12-2012 | 07:04 AM
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Delta has a bright future. The financials look strong and management is excited about all our Joint Ventures and alliances.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
The operation is running like a Swiss watch. All the metrics are excellent. On time, lost bags, completion factor, customer complaints, D-Zero, etc. etc. all look fantastic and continue to improve.
And they are making the Trainer refinery sound like a license to print money.
BUT - From a pilot perspective this Investor Day conference is nothing short of dismal.
Richard and Ed are making no bones about it.
The "network" will grow but they are planning to shrink the "Delta" portion of the airline further.
Capacity will definitely be down in 2013 and down again to possibly flat in 2014.
And if we go over this fiscal cliff and the economy tips back into recession - watch out, they are ready to park a bunch of jets.
12-12-2012 | 07:10 AM
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12-12-2012 | 07:12 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Sailing won't reply if you contradict him with facts ... .
12-12-2012 | 07:15 AM
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2009
50 seaters - 474
70/76 seaters - 219
Mainline - 594
Total - 1287
Average Gauge - 102
2015
50 Seaters - 125
70/76 Seaters - 295
Mainline - 675
Total - 1095
Average Gauge - 122
(Edit: To clarify, this is domestic fleet count. Approximately 150 aircraft are not included)
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12-12-2012 | 07:23 AM
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I don't know, Sailing could actually be correct. Depends on some assumptions I suppose.
Its pretty hard to interpret that slide that shows mainline growing.
Its got a title of "Domestic Fleet Count".
That slide does show mainline growing but I don't know if any widebodies or ETOPS 757s are included.
Its Presentation slide #19.
We can argue more later but it was pretty clear in Richard's remarks that he intends to keep pulling down capacity. Perhaps the more important thing for us to look at is block hours rather than hull count. They seem pretty proud of their ability to park jets since so many of them are old and paid for.
Its pretty hard to interpret that slide that shows mainline growing.
Its got a title of "Domestic Fleet Count".
That slide does show mainline growing but I don't know if any widebodies or ETOPS 757s are included.
Its Presentation slide #19.
We can argue more later but it was pretty clear in Richard's remarks that he intends to keep pulling down capacity. Perhaps the more important thing for us to look at is block hours rather than hull count. They seem pretty proud of their ability to park jets since so many of them are old and paid for.
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