Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-21-2012, 09:32 AM
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Hey - if Instagram changes policy because of backlash from its users, we can fix this flow issue real quick.
12-21-2012, 09:35 AM
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Commuting on a 50 seat RJ for a 5 day Christmas trip on the shortest day of the year...quite possibly the last day of the world. Is that a bad luck trifecta? Maybe I should have called in sick.
12-21-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor220
I totally agree. However, for every Gulfstream guy, there's a pilot at Pinnacle that went about it the right way, has a degree, humble about where he's at and only wants a chance to interview at Delta. Please don't lump the entire pilot group with these Gulfstream guys. It's bad enough I have to fly with some of these clowns on a daily basis.
12-21-2012, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Will
I couldn't agree with you more about the uniform. Self pride and discipline goes a long way. First impressions are lasting impressions.
Maybe waive the cog tests but make us go through the HR interview. Nobody should be scared to sit down and be themselves and let the company decide if they are a good fit or not.
How have the Compass and Mesaba flows worked out? I knew a lot of the guys that flowed and most of them were great pilots to fly with. They all had great personalities and skills.
Maybe waive the cog tests but make us go through the HR interview. Nobody should be scared to sit down and be themselves and let the company decide if they are a good fit or not.
How have the Compass and Mesaba flows worked out? I knew a lot of the guys that flowed and most of them were great pilots to fly with. They all had great personalities and skills.
This is what I have heard.... With a quota per class. Well see if it is true.
12-21-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
While it is true the company can hire whomever it wants and set the conditions for employment, this will certainly have an effect on the overall makeup of the pilot group. I am not happy about it because it does lower standards overall when pilots win such lotteries. I know there will be good pilots that deserve to be here but there are also the likes of the pinnacle FO in line at Starbucks last week in MSP wearing a white long sleeve sweat shirt under his short sleeve pilot shirt. That is no joke! Captain and I were speechless! An FCR followed but I am sure it will go no where.
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12-21-2012, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
I think in fact we have agreed previously in the last contract....35% of new hire classes will be made up of previous ALPA pilots (something to that effect), FIG exactly where do you perceive the lowering of standards? The current pilot group has went through BK, the current pilot group has the same issues and any other group, perhaps we just do not want to acknowledge it.
Most of my time as an FO there was spent watching them and learning what not to do as a captain.
12-21-2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
With first hand experience flying with the senior cadre at Pinnacle, that is a group of pilots that is stuck there for a reason (with a few exceptions). You talk about lowering standards- that is the bottom of the bottom. Bad pilots, worst personalities, and napoleon complexes abound.
Most of my time as an FO there was spent watching them and learning what not to do as a captain.
Most of my time as an FO there was spent watching them and learning what not to do as a captain.
Sure - the hiring process was tough here (and at pmNW) - detailed application, attention to details, CBT tests, interview, MMPI, and yes, the psych interview. But - that's what has separated the people who are too lazy to apply from those who want to work for a great airline.
I don't want them to get to Delta just because they waited around long enough and no one else wanted them.
12-21-2012, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
With first hand experience flying with the senior cadre at Pinnacle, that is a group of pilots that is stuck there for a reason (with a few exceptions). You talk about lowering standards- that is the bottom of the bottom. Bad pilots, worst personalities, and napoleon complexes abound.
Most of my time as an FO there was spent watching them and learning what not to do as a captain.
Most of my time as an FO there was spent watching them and learning what not to do as a captain.
12-21-2012, 11:49 AM
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OK ... so what if a requirement to interview X number a month and hire at least 50 percent of those interviewed? ... sounds strange to me also ...
... new hire class is not something to be afraid of at Delta. A very small handfull don't complete and as often as not they had also interviewed elsewhere and bugged out for FedEx or SWA. ... and just as often as not we have pilots who left other majors to come here.
... new hire class is not something to be afraid of at Delta. A very small handfull don't complete and as often as not they had also interviewed elsewhere and bugged out for FedEx or SWA. ... and just as often as not we have pilots who left other majors to come here.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 12-21-2012 at 12:00 PM.
12-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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Rumor coming out of the roadshow is once you guys start hiring, they have to hire 12 a month, and that number increases yearly. Should reach everyone on the Pinnacle list within 5 years. Will consist of a cog test, written and panel interview. So it's not a straight flow.
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