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Old 12-23-2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Awww, no scenery for you studs? What a shame... In the spirit of full disclosure, please post pictures of yourselves to see how you measure up. Thanks.
I know this is a hard concept for some of you boys, but women (older ones, too) like to look at fabulous scenery as well.
I don't understand how you went right past this picture, as you scrolled down to the ones you're complaining about.

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Old 12-23-2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I don't understand how you went right past this picture, as you scrolled down to the ones you're complaining about.

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Apparently, I did.
Old 12-23-2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Apparently, I did.
Everybody good now?
Old 12-23-2012 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Everybody good now?
Not really, the juvenile comments that older women should be put out to pasture to make way for young ones is offensive. My opinion, I know...but it makes some of you guys look stupid. These are the same "professionals" who tell older pilots "retire already and get outta MY seat."
Old 12-23-2012 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Not really, the juvenile comments that older women should be put out to pasture to make way for young ones is offensive. My opinion, I know...but it makes some of you guys look stupid. These are the same "professionals" who tell older pilots "retire already and get outta MY seat."
Which I'm sure said older pilots never did when they were younger.
Old 12-23-2012 | 10:32 AM
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Your bottom qoute has been uttered since Orville and Wilbur most likely. What I can't figure out is why you constantly troll a pilot forum. I know you have every right to but it just seems a little weird to me. I guarantee you that pilots aren't trolling the.flt attd thread. Truthfully I don't see much you add to the conversations here.

Originally Posted by LNL76
Not really, the juvenile comments that older women should be put out to pasture to make way for young ones is offensive. My opinion, I know...but it makes some of you guys look stupid. These are the same "professionals" who tell older pilots "retire already and get outta MY seat."
Old 12-23-2012 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Your bottom qoute has been uttered since Orville and Wilbur most likely. What I can't figure out is why you constantly troll a pilot forum. I know you have every right to but it just seems a little weird to me. I guarantee you that pilots aren't trolling the.flt attd thread. Truthfully I don't see much you add to the conversations here.
Sorry if I'm not a fan of age discrimination. Someday, you will understand.

I don't "troll" anything. I follow the TOS like most of you and am allowed to be a member. If you don't like it, you can always employ the ignore function.
Old 12-23-2012 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Sorry if I'm not a fan of age discrimination. Someday, you will understand.

I don't "troll" anything. I follow the TOS like most of you and am allowed to be a member. If you don't like it, you can always employ the ignore function.
I am not a fan of age discrimination either however we have working flight attendants who are not physically capable of performing some of the basic tasks required of a flight attendant without even getting into the issue of a emergency. Flight attendant recurrent needs to be changed to reflect the realities of what occurs in a accident and also the day to day job requirements. If a flight attendant is incapable of moving a cart from the back of the aircraft to the front then she should not be working. If she can't assist with putting passengers bags in the overhead she should not be working. If she can not manually open a door with some cant to the fuselage as there will almost always be after a accident then she should not be working. Everyone knows about the come back at 4 O'clock waiver for flight attendants at recurrent who can't complete some tasks.
Old 12-23-2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am not a fan of age discrimination either however we have working flight attendants who are not physically capable of performing some of the basic tasks required of a flight attendant without even getting into the issue of a emergency. Flight attendant recurrent needs to be changed to reflect the realities of what occurs in a accident and also the day to day job requirements. If a flight attendant is incapable of moving a cart from the back of the aircraft to the front then she should not be working. If she can't assist with putting passengers bags in the overhead she should not be working. If she can not manually open a door with some cant to the fuselage as there will almost always be after a accident then she should not be working. Everyone knows about the come back at 4 O'clock waiver for flight attendants at recurrent who can't complete some tasks.
I agree that either you can pass RCT or you can't. However, FAs are not really supposed to be responsible for loading bags in overhead bins. If pax pack them and can schlep them the whole way onto the plane, they should be able to stow it themselves. We are told not to risk injuring ourselves doing that task.
Old 12-23-2012 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Sorry if I'm not a fan of age discrimination. Someday, you will understand.
Age discrimination is wrong and it is illegal. Your point is well taken. However, Just to add to sailingfun's points about physical capabilities, You can't Be so naïve as to deny that some of the criticism of our more "veteran" flight attendants is justified based on both attitude and appearance. It is not just "juvenile" talk.
Granted, the same could be said of many older pilots. But pilots are not public contact employees to anywhere near the extent that flight attendants are. There is a difference.
It is simply accepting reality to acknowledge that given a choice most passengers would prefer a more "enthusiastic" and yes, more attractive, cabin crew.
Most of our senior flight attendants provide excellent service but please don't insult our intelligence by pretending that the "cat rancher" issue doesn't exist.
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