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jabwmu 01-01-2013 04:43 PM

About to non-rev on Expressjet (formerly ASA) on a former Pinnacle route. Mainline travels as S3c and behind Expresjet and Expressjet parents. Was it like that on ASA before they merged with Expressjet?

I don't understand why mainline would travel on a delta connection flight behind Expressjet's parents. Is this new?

DLpilot 01-01-2013 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1322058)
About to non-rev on Expressjet (formerly ASA) on a former Pinnacle route. Mainline travels as S3c and behind Expresjet and Expressjet parents. Was it like that on ASA before they merged with Expressjet?

I don't understand why mainline would travel on a delta connection flight behind Expressjet's parents. Is this new?

It has been that way for several years.

Geardownflaps30 01-01-2013 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1322058)
About to non-rev on Expressjet (formerly ASA) on a former Pinnacle route. Mainline travels as S3c and behind Expresjet and Expressjet parents. Was it like that on ASA before they merged with Expressjet?

I don't understand why mainline would travel on a delta connection flight behind Expressjet's parents. Is this new?

Been that way since Skywest bought ASA from Delta, although it took about 1-2 yrs before it was all codified in TravelNet. It was part of the purchase and sale agreement with Skywest. They always want their employees to go first on their equipment...

Delta needed that $450 million back then so they agreed to it.

forgot to bid 01-01-2013 05:30 PM

it helps remind us that Delta is a ticket broker and we are just one of many providing air transportation services.

see lee moak for details.

Rogue24 01-01-2013 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1320329)
What IF...

We (and by we I mean DALPA) were able to negotiate a NEW pay rate for all the 757 replacements, ie. all 737's and all A319/320/321's, to equal 757/767 pay?

Hummmm....

Then would we be beoching about getting new (used), little airplanes?

I was very dissapointed in the last T/A, that they didn't put the 717 at the same rate as the MD88/90. What I would like to see is, all the narrow bodies, pay the same, and all the wide bodies pay the same. The arguement you make to management is, it will save you a Bazzillion dollars in training, and will reduce the need to hire, since fewer pilots will be locked up in training.


What if the 739 and 321 paid the same as the 757? Would that mean that an airline with the 739 being their biggest jets also mean that they would have WB expectations on our fleet if we had to do an SLI? (757=739/321=767ER?) Sometimes a slight loss in pay may benefit you greatly down the road.

Timbo 01-01-2013 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1322092)
What if the 739 and 321 paid the same as the 757? Would that mean that an airline with the 739 being their biggest jets also mean that they would have WB expectations on our fleet if we had to do an SLI? (757=739/321=767ER?) Sometimes a slight loss in pay may benefit you greatly down the road.


That's true, you never know when an 'improvement' will come back to bite you!

Columbia 01-01-2013 05:56 PM

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scambo1 01-01-2013 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1322092)
What if the 739 and 321 paid the same as the 757? Would that mean that an airline with the 739 being their biggest jets also mean that they would have WB expectations on our fleet if we had to do an SLI? (757=739/321=767ER?) Sometimes a slight loss in pay may benefit you greatly down the road.

What if the #13 guy on a 12000 pilot list flies 73NA? What if that company merged with a company that only had 1000 pilots and only flew 737s? Would the smaller company's pilots be ratioed in from #13 on down?

scambo1 01-01-2013 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1322103)
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That was funny for the 15 seconds it was up.

johnso29 01-01-2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1322104)
What if the #13 guy on a 12000 pilot list flies 73NA? What if that company merged with a company that only had 1000 pilots and only flew 737s? Would the smaller company's pilots be ratioed in from #13 on down?

The DAL 73N CA would have the career expectation (and seniority to currently hold) of holding 744/777 CA. The other guy wouldn't get any higher then 737 CA. So no.


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