Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1349923)

Wait til Delta merges with Alaska. F/O careers will be sidetracked again as a bunch of Alaska pilots end up in Delta widebody seats.

Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1349946)

Know something the rest of us don't or just speculating? :eek:

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1349900)

Flying much over 80 kills this pilot group, because it kills advancement. It serves some individuals by steering resources their way, at the expense of the common good, and it adds insult to injury by doing so at a lower aggregate benefit. Trying to institutionalize this is what I'm opposed to.

I would like to marginalize time above 80, not make it more lucrative. I would prefer that we negotiate rates and costs that let all pilots enjoy an acceptable standard of living, at a capped, reasonable number of hours that's likely to result in advancement, longevity, and health for all. In that context, I also want the highest possible multiplier for overtime flying.

The people whining about the GS system dry up the pool of open flying, thereby killing all reasonable chances of true premium flying that circulates through a category. Then they ask to be rewarded for it. They act as if the drying up of GS is the issue, but it is merely a symptom, of which they are the disease.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1349959)

+777 !!!!!

The last thing we need is 12K Pilots all trying to fly 80+ hours each month.
It cracks me up seeing guys who are junior in category complaining that they don't like the current GS system and want 1.5X over 80 hours.

Be careful what you ask for - if you think stagnation is bad now lets incentivise maximum flying even more.

And just remember every time that an Inverse assignment goes out - the junior guy could have gotten a Greenslip.

Scoop

Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1349946)

Know something the rest of us don't or just speculating? :eek:

Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1349513)

It's almost sad that you keep beating the "Ed Said.." drum. PLEASE for the good of the group stop spewing Angry Pilots Association rhetoric (need I remind of the abortion scare or would you rather I pull the "fire alarm"? GMAFB) - it's nothing but divisive. Of course on 2nd thought that IS your primary goal here :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 560148)

Why don't we all use our energies to fight this scope cave-in, instead of wasting a single brain cell on something that will never happen.

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1349865)

Talk about word games. Pay RATES may have gone up, but far too many of us are seeing those RATE gains neutralized by displacements. Displacements allowable by contract changes that allow us to do more flying with less pilots. I know you know this, so I wonder who you are trying to fool with this line of "reason".


Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1349953)

I know this is far off topic but...any chance you can change that avatar? It's got a really creepy sense to it. Creepy like child molester creepy.

Carl

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1349850)

In the meantime, each bid I'm within a hair of being displaced off the 320.

I know the planes are coming, but with the first bid for the 717's coming up, we're looking at over 400 displacements.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1349996)

So the 767 domestic category closing is a result of C2012?