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SailorJerry 02-11-2013 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350570)

That made my day, thanks Carl!

You like to see what you'd see anyway huh? No matter what I said needed no translation. Let me be more succinct.

You. Don't. Know. How. Good. You. Have. It.

Carl Spackler 02-11-2013 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1350566)
Or read one if my books. ;)

Touché :D

Carl

Carl Spackler 02-11-2013 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350571)
Rules for Radicals is your playbook, not mine.

Your post to TOGA was right out of Alinsky's book. No facts, just denigration and diversion.

If you're insulted by my reference to Alinsky and your posts, then stop behaving like some far left type that uses these tactics to make up for not having the truth on your side.

Carl

TOGA LK 02-11-2013 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350558)
Can you agree that what's done is in fact done? I doubt Toga or you has the background that I do so I'll be mildly irritated that you discredit my opinion based solely on your perception of my position in life.

I can agree that substantial damage was done to the US part 121 profession with c-scale pilots flying our planes, pilots would have walked off the job over this just ten years ago, well APA and SWAPA would have. What I have a major problem with is making the same stupid decisions over and over hoping for a better outcome each time. Lastly, for all I know you could be some zit faced intern reading tuner car or world of warcraft magazine on the fourth floor; I don't really care. The best position for a guy like you is handling the aftermath of families destroyed or otherwise uprooted through whipsawing between regionals. Maybe you could have dinner with a RJ pilot and his family and explain why he's going from CRJ-50 captain to CRJ-900 FO on probation instead of flying the same jet or better at Delta. My intent is to highlight our mistakes, to the maximum extent possible, so next time we can break the chain. It won't end, I'm relentless. You don't know my background, few on here do. If I had made your mistake I couldn't even face my peers let alone look at myself in the mirror.

SailorJerry 02-11-2013 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1350580)

Your post to TOGA was right out of Alinsky's book. No facts, just denigration and diversion.

If you're insulted by my reference to Alinsky and your posts, then stop behaving like some far left type that uses these tactics to make up for not having the truth on your side.

Carl

Carl - this isn't political revolution, this isn't Fox News, this isn't being anti-American, this isn't about anything except Delta Air Lines. The war you perceive doesn't exist. It was over when the TA passed and when DPA martyred themselves. It's over. You can be a revolutionary all you want but it's not going to do any good here.

SailorJerry 02-11-2013 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350584)

I can agree that substantial damage was done to the US part 121 profession with c-scale pilots flying our planes, pilots would have walked off the job over this just ten years ago, well APA and SWAPA would have. What I have a major problem with is making the same stupid decisions over and over hoping for a better outcome each time. Lastly, for all I know you could be some zit faced intern reading tuner car or world of warcraft magazine on the fourth floor; I don't really care. The best position for a guy like you is handling the aftermath of families destroyed or otherwise uprooted through whipsawing between regionals. Maybe you could have dinner with a RJ pilot and his family and explain why he's going from CRJ-50 captain to CRJ-900 FO on probation instead of flying the same jet or better at Delta. My intent is to highlight our mistakes, to the maximum extent possible, so next time we can break the chain. It won't end, I'm relentless. You don't know my background, few on here do. If I had made your mistake I couldn't even face my peers let alone look at myself in the mirror.

"Your" flying was voluntarily outsourced and Delta Air Lines, with the permission of its pilot group created the regional jet. I don't care what SWAPA or APA would have done. It's what DALPA didn't do that got us into this mess. What decision has been made over and over? Could you explain what insanity you see? Because I don't see it. It's like your history book is out of date and you're about 18 months behind.

I'll leave the aftermath of destroying regionals to Ryan Gumm - he's actually good at it. I have no desire to work as management at Delta. I don't think I'd fit in with the corporate culture. In fact, I admittedly don't fit in with the Delta culture period. But I'm here. On the same seniority list as you. I just happen to have an opinion that differs from yours. I don't even really know what your take on reality is. Most of what I've been seeing is like tending to data outside two standard deviations. It's there, but you don't know why.

What mistake is it that you think I made? I don't recall many mistakes that you'd know anything about. And I certainly don't remember being wrong.

80ktsClamp 02-11-2013 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1350140)
HA! 80ktsclamp's clamp show has a different format now.

It's on at:

12:30am
12:32am
04:43am
06:57am
07:01am

It used to go to like 2-3am, but then that was it until noon. Times have changed.

http://cl.jroo.me/z3/L/o/e/e/a.baa-S...g-and-baby.jpg

http://naturalparentsnetwork.com/wp-...7-1024x768.jpg

And the next round is starting tonight! I'm just glad Carl is back in action to give me more entertaining stuff to read. :) It's like the Yang to the Yin that is alfalfa/slowplay.

Carl Spackler 02-11-2013 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
Carl - this isn't political revolution,

You have a real grasp of the obvious.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
this isn't Fox News,

O.........K.........


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
this isn't being anti-American,

This is what I'm talking about man. These types of ridiculous diversionary tactics don't work. You only look like someone with a short attention span. Stay on topic. Focus......focus.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
this isn't about anything except Delta Air Lines.

No it's not. It's about the union we pay to represent us. It's about the actions of our union and to what extent they've earned our trust.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
The war you perceive doesn't exist.

I perceive of no war. I only see your actions that are right out of Alinsky's book. Specifically, denigrate and divert when you don't have the truth on your side. If you don't like the comparison, stop earning it.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350589)
You can be a revolutionary all you want but it's not going to do any good here.

Calling out those who can't be direct is always a good thing. Whether it does any good or not is immaterial.

Carl

PilotFrog 02-11-2013 05:38 PM

80ktsClamp: remember.. Back is best!

Purple Drank 02-11-2013 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350572)

You. Don't. Know. How. Good. You. Have. It.

We. Don't. Know. How. Much. DALPA. Left. On. The. Table. Or. Why. They. Ignored. The. Survey. Results.


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