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TOGA LK 02-11-2013 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1350416)
We'll never achieve our earnings/lifestyle potential with DALPA (and its self-serving agenda) on the property.

ALPA could work but it would require a leadership team that thinks quite differently than the average pilot. They would have to be able to think outside the box, be adamant about real scope restoration (sunsets with most and very limited JV deals that yield something to this pilot group) and not be afraid to get a black eye in the process, or give one. It's almost like these guys are afraid of walking into managements office and ruffling a few feathers when needed. T.O. disgusts me...

dalad 02-11-2013 12:13 PM

Wow, over 16,500 calls sold between a 13 and 17 strike on LCC that expire on Friday. Someone is thinking they agree to a merger by then. Lot's of money to be made. FWIW I bought 30 calls with a strike of 13 for about a buck fifty. Put in a stop at 1.20.One call equals 100 shares FWIW.

slowplay 02-11-2013 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350425)
ALPA could work but it would require a leadership team that thinks quite differently than the average pilot. They would have to be able to think outside the box, be adamant about real scope restoration (sunsets with most and very limited JV deals that yield something to this pilot group) and not be afraid to get a black eye in the process, or give one. It's almost like these guys are afraid of walking into managements office and ruffling a few feathers when needed. T.O. disgusts me...

You did write something once that is an accurate reflection of your "thoughts"


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1197671)
Not everyone has critical thinking skills, some have to be guided towards what to believe, like a sheep or a drone.

Keyboard warriors disgust me...:rolleyes:

slowplay 02-11-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350264)
Yep, DAL brought the loose scope, NWA brought the AS codeshare, tighter staffing and what was formerly high time for reserves, now re-branded ALV+15. So post merger we focused on payrates and let work rules and scope slip out of our grasp. Now everyone has witnessed multiple AE's with multitude if MD's and the trend going forward looks concerning. My buddies don't even call them AE's anymore... MD's.

DAL loose scope? Premerger DAL allowed 30 76 seat RJs. NWA allowed 90. NWA was already in a JV with KLM. NWA had 20,000+ segments ticketed on AK, DAL had 2,000. Your argument begins with an invalid premise.


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350264)
Anyone else find it odd that AA/US, Alaska and CAL/UAL are hiring and posting bids with upward movement and have wide bodies on order while we keep MDing into smaller equipment, leasing old vs purchasing new (refleeting long term )? I find it deeply troubling.

Yeah, it's tough for CAL to come up to DAL's staffing requirements...there's was a lot more liberal. How many does UAL still have on furlough? Johnso pointed out some other obvious flaws in your "thoughts"...maybe you should look for some better facts as you share your "concern."

DAL $12.5 B market cap
UCAL $8.7 B market cap
AMR/LCC looking at a $11B cap if they put their deal together.

Carl Spackler 02-11-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1350441)
Keyboard warriors disgust me...:rolleyes:

You mean line pilots disgust you slowplay. Whiney line pilots and their whinier reps removed you from that cushy job as an MEC bureaucrat, and you're unhappy about it. I understand. But lashing out against line pilots ("keyboard warriors") is unhealthy...especially since you're back to being one.

Anger is not a strategy.

Carl

TOGA LK 02-11-2013 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1350441)
You did write something once that is an accurate reflection of your "thoughts"

Keyboard warriors disgust me...:rolleyes:

Like the jokers (various ALPA warriors on FPL and ficticious Bill Lumbergs) who pushed this POS of a PWA. And yes, you and your ALPA bretheren who pushed this thing in the lounges were the biggest jokers off all for puting your name to it. When I proved all the loopholes in this contract these P2Ps would buckle and admit to not having read the PWA at all, just the highlights from the MEC! But my favorite response ever was from an LEC type in ATL that this PWA unlike any other before hinges on trust with management!! YGTBFSM...

So yes, you are a sheep and in my opinion could stand having a clue or two inserted vertically. Good riddance.

sevenfiveseven 02-11-2013 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1350436)
.One call equals 100 shares FWIW.

You mean contracts? 1 contract = 100 shares

SailorJerry 02-11-2013 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1350474)

Like the jokers (various ALPA warriors on FPL and ficticious Bill Lumbergs) who pushed this POS of a PWA. And yes, you and your ALPA bretheren who pushed this thing in the lounges were the biggest jokers off all for puting your name to it. When I proved all the loopholes in this contract these P2Ps would buckle and admit to not having read the PWA at all, just the highlights from the MEC! But my favorite response ever was from an LEC type in ATL that this PWA unlike any other before hinges on trust with management!! YGTBFSM...

So yes, you are a sheep and in my opinion could stand having a clue or two inserted vertically. Good riddance.

Didn't your keyboard warrior leader just say anger is not a strategy?

You haven't seen loopholes in a contract son. You show me a contract with a few dozen "to the extent possible"s and I'll show you loopholes.

You need to be a tad more humble with regard to what you have NOW. Not what you had THEN because that's as ancient history as running 777s from ATL to MCO.

Welcome to the 21st century of aviation.

dalad 02-11-2013 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven (Post 1350476)
You mean contracts? 1 contract = 100 shares

By one call I mean contract, sorry if I confused anybody. Lot's of call contracts traded today. The two boards meet on Wed. At 11-12 billion the LCC share is valued at somewhere between 17-21 per share. That's why I bought 30 contracts with a pretty tight stop.

Carl Spackler 02-11-2013 02:16 PM

The Carl Spackler translation machine needs to be activated here:


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350486)
Didn't your keyboard warrior leader just say anger is not a strategy?

Translation: Line pilots who don't speak from MEC talking points are angry, emotional dividers. Add additional name calling as needed.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350486)
You haven't seen loopholes in a contract son. You show me a contract with a few dozen "to the extent possible"s and I'll show you loopholes.

Translation: I don't like it when people point out loopholes in a contract that I vehemently urged people to vote for. So I'll refer to you as "son" in an attempt to portray you as an inexperienced boob too new to have opinions.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350486)
You need to be a tad more humble with regard to what you have NOW. Not what you had THEN because that's as ancient history as running 777s from ATL to MCO.

Translation: I know he didn't say anything about what he had THEN, but I'll say this anyway in the hopes that nobody remembers it has nothing to do with TA's and their weaknesses. Especially as it relates to P2P volunteers who speak from MEC talking points and didn't learn the actual TA language.


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1350486)
Welcome to the 21st century of aviation.

Translation: Last ditch attempt to denigrate and change the subject so nobody even remembers what we were talking about. Now where is my copy of that Saul Alinsky book?

Carl


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