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Old 03-21-2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
That's pretty much what I got out of that. Looks like profits to be returned to shareholders, which is a good thing.

What surprised me was the statistic that the average age of the Delta fleet is over 16 years old and his claim that Delta's biggest competitors are state-run airlines.
Yep. The state run carriers are the scourge of the global airline industry. They get much lower loans and when they don't make money, they are propped up by their governments.

It was hard to tell if he dodged the question on widebodies or poo-poo'd the latest rumors. He was very clear on flat capacity year over year and making sure the carrier is investment grade.
Old 03-21-2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep. The state run carriers are the scourge of the global airline industry. They get much lower loans and when they don't make money, they are propped up by their governments.

It was hard to tell if he dodged the question on widebodies or poo-poo'd the latest rumors. He was very clear on flat capacity year over year and making sure the carrier is investment grade.
Yes, we have to remember that what he says is tempered and aimed towards investors, not other groups.
Old 03-21-2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Delta Said to Study Order for $4.3 Billion in Wide-Bodies - Bloomberg

If management had said we were getting more wide body aircraft, I would be skeptical.

So if our management is saying they have no intention of placing a wide body order until the end of the decade, then I'm still skeptical.
Yep. They have to at least be concerned with how little large metal we have compared to US/AA and UA.
Old 03-21-2013 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Nothing like fellow pilots alfaromeo and tsquare hoping for your displacement. This Delta pilot brotherhood really is "special" isn't it.

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Just yankin' your chain sweetheart. I flew with a buddy of yours the other day. I have question on IM that he told me to ax ya... comin' at ya.
Old 03-21-2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
He says "capacity will be flat" and new orders for 737-900s and regional jets, deferred 787 purchase until 2021 and can substitute that purchase.
Well - while on the stock exchange floor on a channel watched mostly by stock-traders, he isn't going to get close to saying "growing capacity" or imply anything like that. Also, remember that parking RJs and adding mainline jets is still "flat capacity".

He's talking about Delta seats overall.
Old 03-21-2013 | 11:58 AM
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Well - while on the stock exchange floor on a channel watched mostly by stock-traders, he isn't going to get close to saying "growing capacity" or imply anything like that. Also, remember that parking RJs and adding mainline jets is still "flat capacity".

He's talking about Delta seats overall.
True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.
Old 03-21-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Since marketing has shrunk the block hours every year that is almost a certainty. The good news is this will be the first year that changes and in the coming years there will be a significant increase in mainline block hours.
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Old 03-21-2013 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.
No, investors ARE excited by "flat" - it means higher RASM and more profits. Richard and Ed have been banging the "capacity restraint" drum for a while, and Wall Street seems to like it - stock is at a 52 week high once again. It's when airlines flood the market with seats that everyone loses money.

Delta won't comment on a widebody order because if they are making one, they are still discussing it with Airbus or Boeing. Don't want your big suppliers knowing what and why you are doing it. (other than talking points).
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.
mmmmmmaybe. He was talking about Capacity being flat, not revenue growth. THAT is what investors care about. If you only produce 10 doughnuts/day, but can sell them for an increasing premium as time goes on, that is a positive. Especially in this industry. There was no way he was going to announce anything on that show. Next time I see him though I am gonna ax him if Maria is hot in person.
Old 03-21-2013 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
No, investors ARE excited by "flat" - it means higher RASM and more profits. Richard and Ed have been banging the "capacity restraint" drum for a while, and Wall Street seems to like it - stock is at a 52 week high once again. It's when airlines flood the market with seats that everyone loses money.

Delta won't comment on a widebody order because if they are making one, they are still discussing it with Airbus or Boeing. Don't want your big suppliers knowing what and why you are doing it. (other than talking points).
The stock is leading and at a 52 week high, that's good. Airlines are all higher, which is good.

A pretty informative little interview, there's been a few airline CEOs on lately, it's always interesting.
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