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Old 06-03-2013 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think your going to find that with the long planned retirements on the 757 there will be displacements off that aircraft on most bids. The key is the gain of 77 more Captains slots. This puts us over 275 new Captains in the last 12 months. As long as they are adding Captains then hiring has to follow as the surplus of FO's moves to CA slots.
We only will have as many captains as we have airplanes since as you said we have ## of pilots per plane. What's the net number of captains in the last 12 months? How about last 12 months through the next 12 as we lose the 9 and more 757s?
Old 06-03-2013 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Good point. When we have soon to be 325 jumbo RJs a vast majority of which are longer than the 732, don't blame the economy alone for a sucky decade when it comes to things like loss of flying.
Yes, you can blame your union for the new fangled, disguised B-scale that continues to hamper the junior population. Just goes to prove what getting the "right" guys in the "right" positions can do. Sad.
Old 06-03-2013 | 04:47 PM
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Am I the only one watching the Bruins-Penguins game right now????

4-1 Boston, in the first period!?! Wow.
Old 06-03-2013 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I have to agree. Career expectations in this profession are worthless. I think we're on the uptick but its not, nor will it ever be, what it once was. At this point, we should just seek the best for our families and be very thankful that our merger was so successful.

For perspective, just chat with a UAL or US Air or Air Tran dude.
Well said Buzz, hopefully the left seat is not too far off for you. Any plans for a sequel to your book with Hillary in the running for 2016?
Old 06-03-2013 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by timbo
am i the only one watching the bruins-penguins game right now????

4-1 boston, in the first period!?! Wow.
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Old 06-03-2013 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Well said Buzz, hopefully the left seat is not too far off for you. Any plans for a sequel to your book with Hillary in the running for 2016?
Left seat? Not so much. Not in LA anyway. I had my left seat thrills in the USAF. Maybe down the road. I'd love to get back there.

If Hillary runs, however, game on! I can't wait!! I have LOTS of unused material!
Old 06-03-2013 | 05:05 PM
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I just wish this company would admit they have absolutely NO clue what they are doing when it comes to staffing...

From the March 2013 AE:
M88 - The M88 is currently overstaffed on both the Captain and First Officer positions. However, we anticipate a number of pilots bidding the 717, so we may or may not have to post displacements. As a result, there may be backfills on the M88, depending on the number of M88 pilots who bid off.

From today's AE
For the M88, we will be adding a total of 55 Captain and 30 First Officer positions. At the category level, ATL-M88 will see 30 Captains and 15 F/Os, MSP will have 10 Captains and 10 F/Os, while NYC will have 15 Captains and 5First Officers.
Old 06-03-2013 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
I just wish this company would admit they have absolutely NO clue what they are doing when it comes to staffing...

From the March 2013 AE:
M88 - The M88 is currently overstaffed on both the Captain and First Officer positions. However, we anticipate a number of pilots bidding the 717, so we may or may not have to post displacements. As a result, there may be backfills on the M88, depending on the number of M88 pilots who bid off.

From today's AE
For the M88, we will be adding a total of 55 Captain and 30 First Officer positions. At the category level, ATL-M88 will see 30 Captains and 15 F/Os, MSP will have 10 Captains and 10 F/Os, while NYC will have 15 Captains and 5First Officers.

The answer is in the lost roadshow notes.

Whatever tosses a little angst in your life must be good from a manning perspective...Right?

Delta's a Captain's airline.

You'll be senior someday.

You F...ed up, you trusted us.

Somebody reads the notes accompanying the AE?
Old 06-03-2013 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
We only will have as many captains as we have airplanes since as you said we have ## of pilots per plane. What's the net number of captains in the last 12 months? How about last 12 months through the next 12 as we lose the 9 and more 757s?
The net gain with this bid is about 275 Captains jobs since the contract was signed. I don't quite understand why the increase since we have not been taking aircraft other then 90's and those I think have been offset with DC9 retirements. According to the fleet plan we don't start really adding airframes until Nov of this year. Part of it might be front loading some seats in anticipation of the training load.
I believe the fleet plan for the next year is to park 11 757's according to the crew planning memo just put out. I think in the same time frame we will add 14 to 16 737's. Not sure how many nines are left. I think its around 17 flying.
If you look at the fleet in Jun of next year here is what I see from reading the company reports and memo's. These are not exact numbers but should be close.
Gains
717-21 airframes
737-14
MD-90-12
Total 47 airframes
Losses
757-11
DC-9 17
Total 28

net gain next 12 months 19 airframes

Edited due to math error

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Old 06-03-2013 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The net gain with this bid is about 275 Captains jobs since the contract was signed. I don't quite understand why the increase since we have not been taking aircraft other then 90's and those I think have been offset with DC9 retirements. According to the fleet plan we don't start really adding airframes until Nov of this year. Part of it might be front loading some seats in anticipation of the training load.
I believe the fleet plan for the next year is to park 11 757's according to the crew planning memo just put out. I think in the same time frame we will add 14 to 16 737's. Not sure how many nines are left. I think its around 17 flying.
If you look at the fleet in Jun of next year here is what I see from reading the company reports and memo's. These are not exact numbers but should be close.
Gains
717-21 airframes
737-14
MD-90-12
Total 57 airframes
Losses
757-11
DC-9 17
Total 28

net gain next 12 months 29 airframes
Math error there SF.

Using your numbers above, the Gains are;

21+14+12=47, not 57, so a net gain of only 19, not 29...
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