Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1428499)

Our management team really wants 10bil in debt and a super strong year to get DL on the S&P 500 and have put off a lot of expenses to get us there (wonder why the board put off hiring-duh). There are growth airplanes that are going to start showing up in 2015, AA/US will route rationalize sometime in 2014 creating limited growth opportunities. Fuel will continue to trend downward and when do we exchange openers ?

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1428499)

If we push hard on the next contract my opinion is we will be in a much better position to bargain then we were on the last despite what some say.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1428541)

Now, now Finis. Don't be silly. You don't sound like a broken record.

You sound like a patronizing management/union stooge.

Good things on the horizon? Are you kidding me? With this union? Unless you're referring to Age 70, of course.

Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1428499)

Appreciate the love Ten. Maybe I do drink too much but I can assure you it's not Koolaid. I am a very positive person and a very realistic person. I understand basic economics and I'm a student of the US airline business (not the air cargo or foreign air line business). I also don't really care about today but think in longer terms, like 2 or 3 years down the road. That is why I'm so optimistic about the future for DL pilots, not what's happening today but what is going to start unfolding as we head into 2014. Our management team really wants 10bil in debt and a super strong year to get DL on the S&P 500 and have put off a lot of expenses to get us there (wonder why the board put off hiring-duh). There are growth airplanes that are going to start showing up in 2015, AA/US will route rationalize sometime in 2014 creating limited growth opportunities. Fuel will continue to trend downward and when do we exchange openers ?
If we push hard on the next contract my opinion is we will be in a much better position to bargain then we were on the last despite what some say.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1428541)

Now, now Finis. Don't be silly. You don't sound like a broken record.

You sound like a patronizing management/union stooge.

"Good things on the horizon?" Isn't that what you said 5 years ago?

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1428547)

Are you a pilot? Because that sounds like a lot of stuff management is paid to worry about.

We're paid to provide our experience and expertise to safely fly planes. And we're not being paid enough to do that. I don't give a sh!t about Delta being listed on the S&P 500. Why do you?

Profits are at an all-time high. Our compensation is not. That's a problem, don't you think?

But hey, maybe Delta will be on the S&P 500 next year. Woo hoo. Please tell me how that will help pay for my kid's braces.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1428552)

Here's to a prosperous year for Delta, hiring pilots by the end of the year, and good things to come all around.

GJ

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1428556)

blah, blah, blah.

Delta has made it blatantly clear that we will not be rewarded commensurate with its success (although we were certainly punished commensurate with its failures).

I'm tired of the pollyannas on here glossing over the reality. We are irrelevant as a pilot group.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1428559)

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