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Old 06-15-2013 | 06:32 AM
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Oh and please let me remind you of something. We just won a major scope opportunity with NRT. This would not have been possible in a confrontational style tactic of the APA which has taken 15 years to get nowhere.

And I hate the DPA.

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Don't forget to include the fact we won the hope of "bounce back" recently.
Old 06-15-2013 | 06:38 AM
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What are the odds of Delta placing an aircraft order at the Paris air show?
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:06 AM
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Second hand info from someone who saw SD at 31 flavors: We are not losing as many 757s as initially thought. Thats all the details he gave me. Anyone else heard this?
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
What are the odds of Delta placing a growth aircraft order at the Paris air show?

FYP.
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Please come in at your earliest convenience to have a good faith discussion if you are really interested in being a Delta pilot or not.
Can you check the sim schedule and see if we are leasing our 777 sim to Emirates that day for their phase interviews. Seeing as how they are hiring 777 Captains and you are displacing to 717's, might as well walk across the sidewalk and see what an aggresive competitor that is hiring qualified flight crews looks like.

Can you explain "good faith" as it applies to our JV scope.

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Old 06-15-2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Second hand info from someone who saw SD at 31 flavors: We are not losing as many 757s as initially thought. Thats all the details he gave me. Anyone else heard this?
Sounds great but is anyone else worried that with all this growth we're about to experience* and that we're only down like 1000 pilots in 3 years, which is more retirements than we have coming up in the next 3-4 years, and there's no money in hiring pilots, that we might eventually have to hire some pilots to slightly reduce the rate of shrinking the number of pilots? Capacity restraint, leveraging synnergies, yielding to LCC's to preserve...yields? At least the new peak hour hump is in March. So once we get past that we're home free for another year.

And maybe, just maybe, the 717's are delayed but the 76's are coming anyway, AF/KLM/AZ have no intention of reducing anything beyond the general bilateral reductions so you can rebalance, Virgin ain't reducing anything either and you ain't growing into what they currently do for sure.



So what do I have to do to get you into a scope rebalance today?

OK, aren't I just the worst?




*starting next bid, obvsly
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Second hand info from someone who saw SD at 31 flavors: We are not losing as many 757s as initially thought. Thats all the details he gave me. Anyone else heard this?
Given the huge displacement drive ... crew resources apparently does not find that story credible. IMHO some of these displacements are part of the FTDT changes ....

Also, there is positive correlation between the Company's bad faith on JV scope and staffing reductions.
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Given the huge displacement drive ... crew resources apparently does not find that story credible. IMHO some of these displacements are part of the FTDT changes ....
Actually these displacements are the strongest evidence yet that the 75's are staying around longer. While there's no money in hiring pilots, there's clearly money in binge and purge boiler room day trading style overreaction staffing rebalances on an almost monthly basis. So I think this one has legs.

What do you mean about the FTDT changes though? Do you think they are actually dellusional enough to displace 100 pilots in an attempt to fantasy staff 9 block hour days with no more "legal to start legal to finish"?
Old 06-15-2013 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Actually these displacements are the strongest evidence yet that the 75's are staying around longer. While there's no money in hiring pilots, there's clearly money in binge ....
Binge? I think the only thing Delta's binged on since our merger is helium baloons.
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
What are the odds of Delta placing an aircraft order at the Paris air show?

I was thinking the same thing. I heard from a LCA last week, both Boeing and Airbus came to ATL to put on a sales pitch. Boeing was pitching the 777-300 as the replacement to the 747. Not sure what Airbus was pitching, Richard said he's not interested in the A350, so I'm guessing they were pitching the A330 in some new variation.

The LCA mentioned there is a Board of Directors meeting in July, they may wait until then to make the announcement, amid the glowing earnings reports. I'm pretty sure DAL's fiscal year runs June-June, so they will be announcing some big earnings this year, obviously, come the July BOD meeting.
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