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Old 06-15-2013 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Given the huge displacement drive ... crew resources apparently does not find that story credible. IMHO some of these displacements are part of the FTDT changes ....

Also, there is positive correlation between the Company's bad faith on JV scope and staffing reductions.


Originally Posted by gloopy
Sounds great but is anyone else worried that with all this growth we're about to experience* and that we're only down like 1000 pilots in 3 years, which is more retirements than we have coming up in the next 3-4 years, and there's no money in hiring pilots, that we might eventually have to hire some pilots to slightly reduce the rate of shrinking the number of pilots? Capacity restraint, leveraging synnergies, yielding to LCC's to preserve...yields? At least the new peak hour hump is in March. So once we get past that we're home free for another year.


Ahhhhhhhhhh, <picture person drinking a nice cold beer on a hot day> that's refreshing......more doom & gloom.

Of course the company couldn't be "behind", and have made a mistake by "not" hiring pilots and are just now putting forth smaller AE's to staff the smaller equipment as they need for summer flying. (Read: So they don't have to cancel domestic trips for lack of crews.)

GJ

P.S. Continue the "sky is falling, we'll never hire, never get a raise, never make it to the left seat" banter. I prefer to maintain my excitement for the fall when we "do" hire, and for the future of Delta Air Lines and it's pilots.

P.P.S. Bar, when were we going to furlough again?
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:14 AM
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ALCON,

Taking the youngster (4.5 yrs old) to the water park. Ready for incoming, but won't be able to respond until later.

All have a nice day.

GJ
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Of course the company couldn't be "behind", and have made a mistake by "not" hiring pilots and are just now putting forth smaller AE's to staff the smaller equipment as they need for summer flying. (Read: So they don't have to cancel domestic trips for lack of crews.)

I'm curious: How are the many displaced pilots that are going to need training due to this last AE going to cover said summer flying when they'll be sitting in the schoolhouse? It is already the middle of June (and if I'm not mistaken, this was for July conversion at earliest). Anybody training for a new position may make it to the line by mid/late-August...

Additionally: did not the AE/management state that this AE was to set up for Fall/Winter flying?
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Also some very interesting details about ATC's role in putting the crew into that storm.

We're going to be hearing a lot more about this one.
You gave lot's of details on damage and the diversion, why did you stop regarding ATC's supposed role?

Lets hear the details.
Old 06-15-2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
I'm curious: How are the many displaced pilots that are going to need training due to this last AE going to cover said summer flying when they'll be sitting in the schoolhouse? It is already the middle of June (and if I'm not mistaken, this was for July conversion at earliest). Anybody training for a new position may make it to the line by mid/late-August...

Additionally: did not the AE/management state that this AE was to set up for Fall/Winter flying?
It's not to cover this summer. That ship sailed a while ago. It's to cover the NB peak flying in Mar 2014. March will now be the busiest month for NB domestic flying. At least in 2014.
Old 06-15-2013 | 10:32 AM
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Remember the -400 out of Dtw?


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
ATC can never "put" you in a storm. You can willingly fly into one, but they can't put you into one. I've declared an emergency, ignored an ATC clearance, and flew around weather as I saw fit at least a half dozen times in my career.

Nobody likes declaring an emergency, but you have the authority...and you must use it. Another great lesson for us because it didn't cost lives.

Carl
Old 06-15-2013 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Remember the -400 out of Dtw?
I sure do. That was really ugly too.

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Old 06-15-2013 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
It's not to cover this summer. That ship sailed a while ago. It's to cover the NB peak flying in Mar 2014. March will now be the busiest month for NB domestic flying. At least in 2014.

I know that it is not for covering this summer.

It was Gearjerk that mentioned/brought up about the covering of summer flying.
Old 06-15-2013 | 11:07 AM
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How about those bears?
Old 06-15-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
You gave lot's of details on damage and the diversion, why did you stop regarding ATC's supposed role?

Lets hear the details.
Uncertain about the accuracy of any of this. Mechanic told a long story. Not sure how he would know so much regarding ATC but the jist of it was the crew asked to deviate and ATC said "unable due to traffic". Like Carl was saying -The crew had emergency authority but apparently did not use it. They continued on course. - that will probably be the lesson here.

Any Mad dog management pilots online today? Confirm or deny this hail incident?
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