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Old 06-15-2013 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Actually these displacements are the strongest evidence yet that the 75's are staying around longer. While there's no money in hiring pilots, there's clearly money in binge and purge boiler room day trading style overreaction staffing rebalances on an almost monthly basis. So I think this one has legs.

What do you mean about the FTDT changes though? Do you think they are actually dellusional enough to displace 100 pilots in an attempt to fantasy staff 9 block hour days with no more "legal to start legal to finish"?
I have to say gloop makes a good point. We don't know what makes money and they do and obviously what makes money is what we are doing right now.
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:35 AM
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Hiring FAs makes money, hiring pilots does not.
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Second hand info from someone who saw SD at 31 flavors:
SD and 31 flavors shouldn't occur in the same sentence.

Just sayin.

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Old 06-15-2013 | 08:51 AM
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Mechanic came up to the cockpit last night with a story.
We came this close to losing a Mad Dog two nights ago on approach to ATL.
Severe hail damage. Shattered both outer windshields. Destroyed the leading edge devices. Radome gone. Horizontal and vertical stabs shredded. Huge dents all over the fuselage. etc. etc.
Very, very bad.
Airplane diverted to GSO I think he said. Mechanics who were sent to assess the thing said they are surprised that it landed. Said it will be repaired but its going to take a long time.
Also some very interesting details about ATC's role in putting the crew into that storm.

We're going to be hearing a lot more about this one.
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:53 AM
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It got that severe of damage on approach into ATL and diverted to GSO?? Something doesn't sound right about that story.
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Binge? I think the only thing Delta's binged on since our merger is helium baloons.
Use of the words unity and leadership are a also an all time high
Old 06-15-2013 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Mechanic came up to the cockpit last night with a story.
We came this close to losing a Mad Dog two nights ago on approach to ATL.
Severe hail damage. Shattered both outer windshields. Destroyed the leading edge devices. Radome gone. Horizontal and vertical stabs shredded. Huge dents all over the fuselage. etc. etc.
Very, very bad.
Airplane diverted to GSO I think he said. Mechanics who were sent to assess the thing said they are surprised that it landed. Said it will be repaired but its going to take a long time.
Also some very interesting details about ATC's role in putting the crew into that storm.

We're going to be hearing a lot more about this one.
And the engines kept running? Wonder what those fan blades looked like...
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It got that severe of damage on approach into ATL and diverted to GSO?? Something doesn't sound right about that story.
Happened up around the north arrival corner post I think. ODF maybe. That line of weather was oriented east-west and moving straight south. Very unusual and very powerful.
They would have had to go back through it to get to Hartsfield.
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Second hand info from someone who saw SD at 31 flavors: We are not losing as many 757s as initially thought. Thats all the details he gave me. Anyone else heard this?

Blasphemy!!!


Doug, don't you know there'll be no "positive" rumors on this forum!?

GJ
Old 06-15-2013 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Mechanic came up to the cockpit last night with a story.
We came this close to losing a Mad Dog two nights ago on approach to ATL.
Severe hail damage. Shattered both outer windshields. Destroyed the leading edge devices. Radome gone. Horizontal and vertical stabs shredded. Huge dents all over the fuselage. etc. etc.
Very, very bad.
Airplane diverted to GSO I think he said. Mechanics who were sent to assess the thing said they are surprised that it landed. Said it will be repaired but its going to take a long time.
Also some very interesting details about ATC's role in putting the crew into that storm.

We're going to be hearing a lot more about this one.
ATC can never "put" you in a storm. You can willingly fly into one, but they can't put you into one. I've declared an emergency, ignored an ATC clearance, and flew around weather as I saw fit at least a half dozen times in my career.

Nobody likes declaring an emergency, but you have the authority...and you must use it. Another great lesson for us because it didn't cost lives.

Carl
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