Negative. Your belief is incorrect for MIL LV returnees. They go wherever their seniority will hold. (A free move, per se.)

Buzzpat can probably answer the FUR returnee rights more accurately, but "I believe" they also retain their rights to their seniority number & whatever that allows them to hold at the company.

GJ

 

Generally recalls go where there are openings. Those returning from military leave go wherever their seniority can hold.


A recalled pilot:

a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),

b. may be required to complete training for that position, and

c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.

 

Now that we've announced hiring what do all you negative nellies have to say about it? I've read a number of posts on here that have said no way we are hiring until 2015 at the earliest. Were you guys on crack or did you really believe that crap?

 

Negative.....LOL

Your correct mil lv return guys go to what they can hold. I know that for a fact and am very familiar with the process, rules, benefits and limitations. I've done it twice.

Of course I have also bypassed furlough recall, but a year later I accepted recall and went on mil leave.

However, the questions was where do furlough bypass guys go when they come back and I said I think they go where the company needs them.

That question has nothing to do with mil leave. Furlough bypass and mil leave have nothing to do with each other as far as recall rights, benefits, entitlements or status in the eyes of the company.

 

Not only the eyes of the company, but also federal Law, Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA).

Scoop

 

Apples and Oranges. Most of the folks on furlough bypass were f-NWA which would not have effected Delta hiring in 2007.

16X of 20X are senior to me. Some are as senior as 5,3XX and there are a few in the 8,000's.

 

So for the bottom couple thousand it sounds like continued slippage and displacements until next summer when all the bypasses have returned. Then the flows would start coming on, pushing us back to where we are now by fall 14.

Noooooot being a negative Nellie - just seems like this is where we stand. What am I missing?

 

I'm an 07 hire so all the bypassers are senior to me. I doubt it will be that noticable to us that these guys are coming back. Probably about 150 at most will come back. Of those 150 I would bet 100 of them will bid a narrowbody FO position. Of those 100 they will probably be spread out across almost all the bases. So you might in the next six months see at most 10 guys come into your category that are senior to you. Unless you are sifting through everything looking for these guys you will probably not even notice that they are back. The guys who bid the ER will probably sting a little because they will add onto the next round of displacements off the ER. The most noticable thing we will see is 300 guys going through class but only having 150 more guys behind us.

I welcome back every single one of these guys and hope that in the next 30 years we never have to have this discussion again. My life as an 07 hire has been a cake walk compared to what the guys hired in 2000-01 have had....especially the fNWA guys furloughed twice.

 

Absolutely concur. Thanks.

 

So in the next year and a half, we will add approximately 150 new guys to our list? That's good. I'm showing 159 retirements in that same time frame. Our overall list size will almost maintain status quo. At least they are replacing the pilots that are leaving. It's better than what has been happening. I still see displacements and backwards movement in the junior guys' futures for the next couple years. It's good news. We just haven't had good news in so long that this seems better than it really is.