Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
ATL A320 B
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: No longer MEM or 9, but still a guy.
In the ATL 320B category it is a mess. It is not a matter of senior guys bidding reserve. It looks like a case of Garbage in, Garbage out with the combination of trip construction, bid package construction, and an ALV that should not have been set at 84.
June projected line count was 50 actual was 49
July projected line count was 53 actual was 53
August projected line count was 51 actual was 45
One of the reasons that they missed more than normal was that 304:51 was left in open time. Enough time to create at least 4 more regular lines if it was not all stacked up in the first 10 days of the month. Someone really let this month get screwed up...
Hopefully ALPA will attempt to hold them accountable for such lousy work, and not just help the company make exscuses for this.
June projected line count was 50 actual was 49
July projected line count was 53 actual was 53
August projected line count was 51 actual was 45
One of the reasons that they missed more than normal was that 304:51 was left in open time. Enough time to create at least 4 more regular lines if it was not all stacked up in the first 10 days of the month. Someone really let this month get screwed up...
Hopefully ALPA will attempt to hold them accountable for such lousy work, and not just help the company make exscuses for this.
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Starboard Side, weekends & holidays.
Dude... seriously can't believe I'm reading this from a pilot. Don't be the guy showing up in shorts or jeans to non-rev in 1st class. If I paid a couple thousand $$ for a seat, I'd be ****ed if some lazy slacker employee lounged out next to me in shorts or jeans. And sorry, folks ARE going to decide who you are and label you based on your clothes. I recommend not wearing a hoody either. If you don't own a pair of slacks that are as comfortable as jeans, go splurge at WalMart with $15 and buy a pair.
I'm pretty sure one of the Delta hiring interview make-or-break questions was, "If we didn't specify a dress code, which would you show up wearing to non rev: jeans and a t-shirt, or business slacks and a collared dress shirt?" Really, pretty sure that was one of them. If I remember wrong...it should be.
I'm pretty sure one of the Delta hiring interview make-or-break questions was, "If we didn't specify a dress code, which would you show up wearing to non rev: jeans and a t-shirt, or business slacks and a collared dress shirt?" Really, pretty sure that was one of them. If I remember wrong...it should be.
With the possibility of new pilots joining us, I propose a new video link on APC to help them learn the ropes. We could call it YouNoob. Some suggested channels:
The Bucking Bar Channel - MD88 engineering triumphs...YouNoob's shortest video series.
The Buzzpat Channel - Want a successful life?...pick a hot wife. The how to guide.
The Jesse Channel - A photo album.
The 80ktsClamp Channel - How to successfully blame the other pilot for farting in a two man cockpit. Coming soon: The Magic Carpet Ride...a how to guide.
The Forgot To Bid Channel - A guide to bidding.
The Denny Crane Channel - Finding fulfillment...even though you'll never be DennyCrane!
The Tsquare Channel - A tutorial of putting people on your ignore list.
The FIIGMO Channel - A guide to the Fox News Channel.
The Delta I.T. Channel - Under construction.
The Timbo Channel - The art of enjoying days off.
The Purple Drank Channel - Success through positive thinking.
The Slowplay/Alfaromeo Channel - How to spin a bad checkride into a good thing by blaming the instructor then redefining the grading system. $1 premium charge to remove the "DPA Sucks" banner ad.
The Carl Spackler Channel - Static and hot air. $1 premium charge to remove the "ALPA Sucks" banner ad.
YouBoob - Self explanatory.
The Asiana Channel - A hand flying guide. Too soon?
Carl
The Bucking Bar Channel - MD88 engineering triumphs...YouNoob's shortest video series.
The Buzzpat Channel - Want a successful life?...pick a hot wife. The how to guide.
The Jesse Channel - A photo album.
The 80ktsClamp Channel - How to successfully blame the other pilot for farting in a two man cockpit. Coming soon: The Magic Carpet Ride...a how to guide.
The Forgot To Bid Channel - A guide to bidding.
The Denny Crane Channel - Finding fulfillment...even though you'll never be DennyCrane!
The Tsquare Channel - A tutorial of putting people on your ignore list.
The FIIGMO Channel - A guide to the Fox News Channel.
The Delta I.T. Channel - Under construction.
The Timbo Channel - The art of enjoying days off.
The Purple Drank Channel - Success through positive thinking.
The Slowplay/Alfaromeo Channel - How to spin a bad checkride into a good thing by blaming the instructor then redefining the grading system. $1 premium charge to remove the "DPA Sucks" banner ad.
The Carl Spackler Channel - Static and hot air. $1 premium charge to remove the "ALPA Sucks" banner ad.
YouBoob - Self explanatory.
The Asiana Channel - A hand flying guide. Too soon?

Carl
For the noobs.....welcome aboard! You're going to love (at least most) the guys you fly with at Delta. That's the best aspect of the career!
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: SWA F/O
Have you looked back to see what your passengers in First are wearing these days??? The wife and I non-revved in first down to the islands last month. I was wearing shorts, flip-flops, and a button down short sleeve shirt. Compared to the rest of the cabin I was grossly overdressed...
Thanks for the comments. Seems slacks are the wise, albeit uncomfortable choice.
In the interest of saving time I'll sum it up....
We're hiring, any info
Rumor
We stopped Hiring
Rumor
We're merging
We're not merging
We're merging again
Delta guys screws the NWA guys in the SLI
NWA guys keep their pensions, give the DAL guys the finger
Rumor
SLI complete, Carl and Sailing trade disconcerting looks
DC-9 going away
Rumor
DC-9 staying
Rumor
ACL posts a lot of good stuff then goes missing
DC-9 going away again
FTB spreadsheet
New JFK terminal
Nobody here likes Alaska Ailines
Scope abuse
DC-9 a sticking around
DPA vs. DALPA
Contract 2012
DAL pilots save the world by ratifying
Some 737 are ordered
A refinery is purchased
Rumor
DC-9 going away
Hey look some MD 90s
DC-9's staying
Sick leave abuse is acceptable if you post on here complain about it
Some more graphs from FTB
DPA guys hate DALPA guys
DALPA guys hate the DPA guys
DPA accuses DALPA of making the MD 80 seats uncomfortable
T and Purple don't see eye to eye
ATL sucks
Commuting is a choice, but not really, well maybe it is
DC-9 goinnnn......Err staying
We're Hiring!!!!!!
Hope that saves the newcomers some time.
We're hiring, any info
Rumor
We stopped Hiring
Rumor
We're merging
We're not merging
We're merging again
Delta guys screws the NWA guys in the SLI
NWA guys keep their pensions, give the DAL guys the finger
Rumor
SLI complete, Carl and Sailing trade disconcerting looks
DC-9 going away
Rumor
DC-9 staying
Rumor
ACL posts a lot of good stuff then goes missing
DC-9 going away again
FTB spreadsheet
New JFK terminal
Nobody here likes Alaska Ailines
Scope abuse
DC-9 a sticking around
DPA vs. DALPA
Contract 2012
DAL pilots save the world by ratifying
Some 737 are ordered
A refinery is purchased
Rumor
DC-9 going away
Hey look some MD 90s
DC-9's staying
Sick leave abuse is acceptable if you post on here complain about it
Some more graphs from FTB
DPA guys hate DALPA guys
DALPA guys hate the DPA guys
DPA accuses DALPA of making the MD 80 seats uncomfortable
T and Purple don't see eye to eye
ATL sucks
Commuting is a choice, but not really, well maybe it is
DC-9 goinnnn......Err staying
We're Hiring!!!!!!
Hope that saves the newcomers some time.
lol there you go, finally a good sense of humor! 
MWright, you remained steely-eyed and calm even though I was hoping someone would bite off on the goat-f*cker comment
So as a lot of guys have pointed out, you can get by with neat/clean/casual. But it's indeed wise to be prepared and dressed for the jumpseat, I've been within 1 seat of needing it on every single flight I've hopped for months. We're almost always chock full now.

MWright, you remained steely-eyed and calm even though I was hoping someone would bite off on the goat-f*cker comment
So as a lot of guys have pointed out, you can get by with neat/clean/casual. But it's indeed wise to be prepared and dressed for the jumpseat, I've been within 1 seat of needing it on every single flight I've hopped for months. We're almost always chock full now.
Aug Bid results-- I really do think the new top-down denial has had an effect. Like 80, this is the worst schedule I've gotten for years. Four day redeyes worth 16 hours, while guys below me are getting at least 21hr 4 day redeyes.
I went through with PBS desktop bidder and also the flightline software, and looked at what happened to my pool of available trips using the new top-down denial if (as happened) the new method denied "avoid redeyes" halfway down my bad-stuff list.
Using the old method, by the time it reached "avoid redeyes" and denied it to be able to build me a schedule, it would have ALSO denied "avoid saturdays" "avoid sundays", "avoid landings in Mexico", "avoid landings in Dominican Republic", etc. There would have been a pool of about 50 trips to choose from, and all my "award good trips based on credit/day" would have at least gotten me a decent paying redeye.
HOWEVER, now the algorithm starts out by saying "you MUST have a redeye to have a line, so I'll just remove this..." and it then allows all the other avoids... so when it finally gets to the very first AWARD attempt, well it has only about 10 redeyes in the pot and they are all the worst paying crappers in the package. Sure they don't land in Mex or SD and are on the weekday, but what I get on the first attempt is alllllll bad redeyes because that higher avoid was deleted, while the junior avoids remained, leaving ONLY bad redeyes in the available pot for the first completion attempt.
We're going to have to do some serious what-if rewriting of our bids due to this new methodology, I thought it was a good thing but further study of the results shows me it will take a LOT more bid lines to make it work correctly...
I went through with PBS desktop bidder and also the flightline software, and looked at what happened to my pool of available trips using the new top-down denial if (as happened) the new method denied "avoid redeyes" halfway down my bad-stuff list.
Using the old method, by the time it reached "avoid redeyes" and denied it to be able to build me a schedule, it would have ALSO denied "avoid saturdays" "avoid sundays", "avoid landings in Mexico", "avoid landings in Dominican Republic", etc. There would have been a pool of about 50 trips to choose from, and all my "award good trips based on credit/day" would have at least gotten me a decent paying redeye.
HOWEVER, now the algorithm starts out by saying "you MUST have a redeye to have a line, so I'll just remove this..." and it then allows all the other avoids... so when it finally gets to the very first AWARD attempt, well it has only about 10 redeyes in the pot and they are all the worst paying crappers in the package. Sure they don't land in Mex or SD and are on the weekday, but what I get on the first attempt is alllllll bad redeyes because that higher avoid was deleted, while the junior avoids remained, leaving ONLY bad redeyes in the available pot for the first completion attempt.
We're going to have to do some serious what-if rewriting of our bids due to this new methodology, I thought it was a good thing but further study of the results shows me it will take a LOT more bid lines to make it work correctly...
404 Atlanta unknown calls... just got two of them, no message left. Clearly a call from Delta as that's the only 404 calls I've ever received. What's that mean? I have a bunch of days off, so could be an IA, but there are reserves avail for tomorrow and only a few GS went out today. Maybe it was the goat comment?
unrelated good news:
The pilot union at American Eagle Airlines has rejected a plan to establish a so-called B scale for new hires at the airline that is trying to win new flying in the merger of its parent company AMR Corp. with US Airways Group, the Dallas Morning News reported.
unrelated good news:
The pilot union at American Eagle Airlines has rejected a plan to establish a so-called B scale for new hires at the airline that is trying to win new flying in the merger of its parent company AMR Corp. with US Airways Group, the Dallas Morning News reported.
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