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Old 07-21-2013 | 10:58 AM
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According to Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, and according to Kevyn Orr, the Detroit Emergency Manager, the Detroit International Airport is an asset that can be sold.



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Dr. Ben Carson, Rep. Donna Edwards discuss fallout from Zimmerman verdict; Kevyn Orr on Detroit's historic bankruptcy | Interviews | Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace - Fox News

This was the company's response on July 19th:
As has previously been stated, the airport that is an asset of the city of Detroit is DET, not DTW. Big difference!
Old 07-21-2013 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
As has previously been stated, the airport that is an asset of the city of Detroit is DET, not DTW. Big difference!
Airport | City of Detroit | www.detroitmi.gov

Old 07-21-2013 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Something I still am not getting about this. So please spell it out for me (maybe smaller one-syllable words). Red bold is different from blue bold how? My mind is asking, why would you have to "call in full" if you reach reserve guarantee? Isn't full reaching/exceeding reserve guarantee?
My understanding, it's two ways of saying the same thing. Yes, being "full" on reserve is reaching/exceeding reserve guarantee. Calling crew scheduling and asking to be shown full is a preemptive way of making sure you don't get a call for the rest of the month. In my case, the 30th and 31st. I still need to be available on the 31st to take calls because I'm on call on August 1st but I cannot be assigned a trip that touches July unless I yellow or green slip.

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Old 07-21-2013 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Hmm. It doesn't say anything about needing to be armed to step out of your airplane there.
Old 07-21-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
My understanding, it's two ways of saying the same thing. Yes, being "full" on reserve is reaching/exceeding reserve guarantee. Calling crew scheduling and asking to be shown full is a preemptive way of making sure you don't get a call for the rest of the month. In my case, the 30th and 31st. I still need to be available on the 31st to take calls because I'm on call on August 1st but I cannot be assigned a trip that touches July unless I yellow or green slip.

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Thanks, Denny. Just to kill this dead horse, how about an example. Let's say ALV is 82 hours. So resv guarantee is ALV - 2 = 80 hours. You fly the trips you get and wind up with 82.00 or greater with so many days left on the current month.

So if you don't "call in full" what's the risk? To answer my own question, they call you with a trip or give you a SC by mistake (or some would say by "mistake.") You then either A: answer the call or see it on your schedule and have to deal with correcting the issue, i.e. get out of the trip because you've flown all you were required to fly, B: Ignore it because you know you're done for the month, but then suffer the @** pain of straightening (talking to more people or the CPO) out the confusion/problems that resulted from this mistake, or C: fly the assigned trip because you either didn't know any better or wanted to make some more money.

Or avoid it all and call in full. Is this about right?
Old 07-21-2013 | 12:51 PM
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My wife and I decided early on that the DB, while a nice promise was a house of cards. I actually LISTENED to the WAL guys when they talked about getting retirement in your own name, and I worked and saved to that end.

I DON'T blame the recipients, but I am done bailing everybody out too. Enough is enough. No more. It is time for personal responsibility, starting with the next person hired. Freeze everything going forward, give them all a 3% payraise and a 401(k). If they then mess it up, not my problem. Sorry.

And the first stop on this train should be the congress of the United States of America.
Agree 100%! You're talking to a Californian who has a neighbor who retired from the CHP at 45 with full disability and makes more each year in pension then I do as a DAL FO flying regular lines. DTW was the largest US city to go BK, CA can't be too far behind.
Old 07-21-2013 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Agree 100%! You're talking to a Californian who has a neighbor who retired from the CHP at 45 with full disability and makes more each year in pension then I do as a DAL FO flying regular lines. DTW was the largest US city to go BK, CA can't be too far behind.
That was the point I was trying to make earlier, only I guess I wasn't very clear....
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
As has previously been stated, the airport that is an asset of the city of Detroit is DET, not DTW. Big difference!
And if they can find a buyer for Detroit City Airport, more power to them.

A 5000 ft airport seriously in the 'hood. It's bad when a guy from the FBO goes with you in the courtesy car to McDonalds in the morning, "just to make sure nothing happens".
Old 07-21-2013 | 01:44 PM
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And if they can find a buyer for Detroit City Airport, more power to them.

A 5000 ft airport seriously in the 'hood. It's bad when a guy from the FBO goes with you in the courtesy car to McDonalds in the morning, "just to make sure nothing happens".
Just out of curiousity....who uses it?
Old 07-21-2013 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Just out of curiousity....who uses it?
Some freight stuff flies out of there, Falcon 20s or DC-9-15s, as it's close to final assembly plants. There's a flight school I think, and probably a little corporate. Never a busy place when I was on a trip going through there.

About 15 years ago, an airline called ProAir tried to make a run at it there. DET-EWR, DET-LGA, DET-MCO that kind of thing. It was supported by GM I think, as they were trying to get lower fares out of DTW and the airlines there weren't playing ball. The only problem was, from what I hear, that if the weather was crappy the 737s they flew couldn't land, as the runway was too short (5,090 ft). Airline lasted a few years if I remember.
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