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Old 07-22-2013 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Wait till you retire. It is next to impossible to non rev on a S3B. It is painful to see a 2013 hire get on before me. Not whining, I know the rules. It would be nice to get a few (4) trips a year using an S2 or 3 for vacation trips. Something to think about in the next contract. This would be a no cost item to the company. Just saying!
No way. Do you really think the ones still on the seniority list would want it to be harder to nonrev? If anything, those still working should get vacation passes.
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:08 AM
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And just think, with the thousands about to retire, how impossible it would be to get to and from work.
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Wait till you retire. It is next to impossible to non rev on a S3B. It is painful to see a 2013 hire get on before me. Not whining, I know the rules. It would be nice to get a few (4) trips a year using an S2 or 3 for vacation trips. Something to think about in the next contract. This would be a no cost item to the company. Just saying!
I could be wrong, but I suspect these weren't your thoughts when you were a new hire.
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
No.

In my view treating pilots equally with every other employee on the property isn't a negotiation, it is ministerial.

If the group wants to negotiate some sort of change, more power to them. I own my own aircraft and don't have a dog in this fight as much as some. Delta pays me well enough that I BUY a ticket on DELTA (support the home team) when I need to get somewhere commercial. (have not even renewed my $50 fee in a year ...)

NOT MINE ... but, an example of the best non-rev alternative:

Is that a Piper? It's got a funny looking tail. Too many thingamabobs, so it can't be a Bonanza.

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Old 07-22-2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Now that is funny!
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
And just think, with the thousands about to retire, how impossible it would be to get to and from work.
I thought commuting was a choice. I kid. I commuted my whole 30 year career. I can and have bought tickets to the BVI , Bermuda and LAS since I retired. My first point was that our so called "benefits" are not as great as we tend to think. Back to mowing the yard!
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Yeah Max, the chance of S2's for retired guys? Poor to really, really poor.
Old 07-22-2013 | 07:59 AM
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IMHO. If we don't put in our WB order soon, we will be so far back in the queue it may be 2-3 years before delivery unless we are buying used.
Old 07-22-2013 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Wait till you retire. It is next to impossible to non rev on a S3B. It is painful to see a 2013 hire get on before me. Not whining, I know the rules. It would be nice to get a few (4) trips a year using an S2 or 3 for vacation trips. Something to think about in the next contract. This would be a no cost item to the company. Just saying!
...Errr, no.
Old 07-22-2013 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Why wouldn't he be knocking one out in the meantime just so it was a non-deal?
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Compass flows go direct to class? If they go direct to class why go and get a degree now? he slipped through.

I haven't spoken with the guy since my last airline so I don't know if he changed his situation.
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