Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-21-2013 | 07:12 AM
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Perhaps I am not fully understanding your post, but the change to a reserve pilot's obligation to remain on call is substantial, even for a domestic pilot. Under prior contracts when a reserve pilot was within 2 hours of the ALV (or cap even further back), that pilot was done if he/she so desired (one could always yellow slip). Now if a pilot is under the ALV by a minute, that pilot must still be available until he/she has actually gone over the ALV. There can and will be periods when this is a significant benefit to the company.
I imagine the MEC saw the costing for the changes to the last contract and determined that this change was acceptable for the improvements the pilots attained.
I imagine the MEC saw the costing for the changes to the last contract and determined that this change was acceptable for the improvements the pilots attained.
I'm fairly certain The Cavalier was being sarcastic.
07-21-2013 | 07:17 AM
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From: Kickin’ Back
Denny,
They will mark you FULL after you have reached the reserve guarantee when they start assigning trips for that day or if you call and ask to be FULL. You are full after passing the reserve guarantee. They can schedule you up to ALV + 15 but you would have to be below the reserve guarantee when that happens or have a yellow slip in. You will not be scheduled for a trip after you pass the reserve guarantee unless you request it.
They will mark you FULL after you have reached the reserve guarantee when they start assigning trips for that day or if you call and ask to be FULL. You are full after passing the reserve guarantee. They can schedule you up to ALV + 15 but you would have to be below the reserve guarantee when that happens or have a yellow slip in. You will not be scheduled for a trip after you pass the reserve guarantee unless you request it.
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07-21-2013 | 07:26 AM
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Just got off the phone with CS and I'm now marked full for the month. WooHoo!
Denny
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07-21-2013 | 07:32 AM
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This is a confusing part of this contract change but a reserve is still FULL when they reach or exceed the guarantee. In categories that have very long trips (intnl) then you could be less than the guarantee when you come up for a trip and they can schedule you for as much as ALV + 15. But you have to be below the guarantee for that to happen.
07-21-2013 | 07:42 AM
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Any of you guys use the "fly confirmed" option in travel net? My daughter needs to get somewhere for college on a certain day, and there in no wiggle room in the schedule, she needs a confirmed seat. I looked 2 weeks ago and the rate was about 325 coast to coast. Now its just shy of 500! Talk about the company beating up its employees over a supposed benefit! The online travel sites: expedia, travelocity, ect have better numbers than that! It really kinda ****es me off that the price for our supposed "benefit" has gone up as the time gets closer to departure date. As the dates get closer the numbers get higher on the public sites, but I think its wrong to jack it up and do the same to us employees.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
07-21-2013 | 07:59 AM
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Any of you guys use the "fly confirmed" option in travel net? My daughter needs to get somewhere for college on a certain day, and there in no wiggle room in the schedule, she needs a confirmed seat. I looked 2 weeks ago and the rate was about 325 coast to coast. Now its just shy of 500! Talk about the company beating up its employees over a supposed benefit! The online travel sites: expedia, travelocity, ect have better numbers than that! It really kinda ****es me off that the price for our supposed "benefit" has gone up as the time gets closer to departure date. As the dates get closer the numbers get higher on the public sites, but I think its wrong to jack it up and do the same to us employees.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
Good Luck.
Denny
07-21-2013 | 08:49 AM
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
Dawgs,
I disagree. The longer the guys stay out the better it is for everyone below them. If all 200 guys came back 5 years ago the bottom 200 pilots who have been making a profit for DAL for 5+ years wouldn't even be DAL employees today.
So when the furloughees eventually come back the bottom guys may see guys coming in above them. It is still much better to be on the DAL seniority list with three or more years of longevity, then trying to get an interview at DAL.
Scoop
I disagree. The longer the guys stay out the better it is for everyone below them. If all 200 guys came back 5 years ago the bottom 200 pilots who have been making a profit for DAL for 5+ years wouldn't even be DAL employees today.
So when the furloughees eventually come back the bottom guys may see guys coming in above them. It is still much better to be on the DAL seniority list with three or more years of longevity, then trying to get an interview at DAL.
Scoop
If our biggest worry are the possibly 200 guys returning from an extended furlough, then we have much bigger worries!
I don't like it any more than the next guy being displaced and forced to commute again and again, but seniority is how we everything gets sorted out - pay, vacation, QOL, base, seat position and aircraft.
Capacity constraint has proven to be financially very successful for the company but came at the price of seniority progression for the pilot group. After eliminating the FE, 911, PBS, economic malaise, bankruptcy and raising of the retirement age took their toll on seniority progression this is just the latest hit.
Going forward we will have to hold the company responsible for providing regular continuous seniority progression for the pilots on property, or everything else becomes somewhat academic.
Cheers
George
07-21-2013 | 08:56 AM
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07-21-2013 | 08:57 AM
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I hold DALPA accountable. The company's actions and desires are predictable and dare I say understandable. This job is about more money and more time off (for all pilots BTW). DALPA gave us less time off for a few extra pennies during the last go around....don't forget those same efficiencies that we sold to the company for rock bottom pricing cost us future jobs and seniority progression as well.
07-21-2013 | 09:00 AM
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Any of you guys use the "fly confirmed" option in travel net? My daughter needs to get somewhere for college on a certain day, and there in no wiggle room in the schedule, she needs a confirmed seat. I looked 2 weeks ago and the rate was about 325 coast to coast. Now its just shy of 500! Talk about the company beating up its employees over a supposed benefit! The online travel sites: expedia, travelocity, ect have better numbers than that! It really kinda ****es me off that the price for our supposed "benefit" has gone up as the time gets closer to departure date. As the dates get closer the numbers get higher on the public sites, but I think its wrong to jack it up and do the same to us employees.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.
Rant over.
Find the lowest fare on delta.com
Except for a few select routes, Delta typically has a pretty competitive fare.
Once you are satisfied with the lowest possible fare on Delta.com plug those flights into the "Fly Confirmed for even less" template in TravelNet.
BTW:
"Fly confirmed for less" is a joke because while it makes it sound the tickets are "refundable," unless the base fare before discount is refundable, the "fly confirmed for less" is also non-refundable.
Unless you are buying a full fare refundable fare, just go for the "fly confirmed for even less" option
I've saved about $800 to fly my family of four across the Atlantic to see the Grandparents...
Cheers
George
P.S. I'd be happy to pay a $500/year "access" fee to once a year get positive space "vacation passes" for my family.
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