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Old 07-14-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep, DL really likes the 60/40 civ/mil ratio
I think it will go recalls, flows/SSP, and military, as the composition of classes over the next few years. There is also a rumor floating around here that Delta plans to interview everyone at 9E, all at once, and put them in an SSP pool. This is an incentive to get people to stay at 9E, since people here are dropping like flies. I have 6 friends that put in their two week notice over the past 2 weeks alone.

No one is going to come work for 9E after what has gone on here the last few years and the contract.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:04 PM
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hey man, I'm not angry. I'm not a pessimist, either. I'm an idealist, and I get spun up when we should be making significant gains, but can't or won't. When our pay and benefits are completely butchered by incompetent, greedy, and/or lazy buffoons who are supposed to be looking out for the Delta line pilot--but who certainly aren't. When we send good money away from our pilot group, only to be wasted by a bloated bureaucracy, and gifted to groups trying to undercut us. Thus, my utter disdain for ALPA.

I'm just tired of ALPA whizzing on our backs and telling us it's raining. That's the company's job--not "our" "union's."

The company is making billions, and we settled for 4/8/3/3 and massive giveaways. But we did get to slide the bidding window 12 hours.
Mr. P. Drank,

That was a great post! Bravo!

Honest question: Don't you think if you posted "reasons" of your ALPA disdain, vs "one-line ALPA attack ads", more would listen?

There are numerous individuals on the thread alone who've put you on an "ignore list" from how you deliver your message. One 777-driver in particular, (sorry, get Timbo/Scambo confused) who call you his "most unimportant" person.

I agree with you. ALPA-National sucks Donkey Kong. I also agree that we should've made "greater" gains in this last contract negotiation.

*alert* Honest question: How were greater gains possible when we were already ahead of our peer groups, sans Southwest? How were we supposed to stomp our feet, & pound our fists on the table when we were ALREADY making more than American, United, US Air, & all the other LCC's?

I agree, the management of "old" Delta was incompetent, greedy, & probably lazy too. (Or at least misinformed by their V.P.'s?) The management we have now has taken us, & will continue to keep us ahead of the competition. WITH THAT BEING SAID, they still have a company to run, with great efficiency, & shareholders to keep happy, & possibly "impress" every so often.

I'll buy you a beer if we ever happen to meet, but for the most part, just feel that we're in a really good spot. With the looming retirements, & the inability for the regionals to find their 1500hr. new-hire requirements, we'll continually be in the "driver's seats" for future contract negotiation.

Good day,

GJ
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think it will go recalls, flows/SSP, and military, as the composition of classes over the next few years. There is also a rumor floating around here that Delta plans to interview everyone at 9E, all at once, and put them in an SSP pool. This is an incentive to get people to stay at 9E, since people here are dropping like flies. I have 6 friends that put in their two week notice over the past 2 weeks alone.

No one is going to come work for 9E after what has gone on here the last few years and the contract.
That actually makes sense, but what about the CA requirement? 2400 interviews is alot! Like someone mentioned somewhere on here. Atleast SOMETHING is happening, even if it only works for some. Good luck everyone.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think it will go recalls, flows/SSP, and military, as the composition of classes over the next few years. There is also a rumor floating around here that Delta plans to interview everyone at 9E, all at once, and put them in an SSP pool. This is an incentive to get people to stay at 9E, since people here are dropping like flies. I have 6 friends that put in their two week notice over the past 2 weeks alone.

No one is going to come work for 9E after what has gone on here the last few years and the contract.
You mean everyone elligible for SSP all at once (i.e. those that meet DL qualifications and are captains)? I seriously doubt anyone will be taken via the out of seniority process.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think it will go recalls, flows/SSP, and military, as the composition of classes over the next few years. There is also a rumor floating around here that Delta plans to interview everyone at 9E, all at once, and put them in an SSP pool. This is an incentive to get people to stay at 9E, since people here are dropping like flies. I have 6 friends that put in their two week notice over the past 2 weeks alone.

No one is going to come work for 9E after what has gone on here the last few years and the contract.
I would bet only about 1/3 of the Pinnacle pilots that interview get hired. I can tell you that is not true. Interviewing everyone at once would take the carrot away from the majority of your pilots.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:20 PM
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I'm really hoping you guys don't start running with the whole "female no TPIC" crap. Every female pilot I know of here at Delta was either a Captain or aircraft Commander in their former lives. I have heard of PEOPLE, male and female, getting the interview with no TPIC. While it boggles the mind that Delta would even consider such candidates, it is Delta's decision to do so. Delta does NOT hire on a quota of any kind, so please let's stay away from the female bashing. However, I also hope Delta refrains from further handicapping future female hires by not interviewing/ hiring anyone with less than the COMPETITIVE qualifications. There are hundreds of females in the military and at the regionals with thousands of hours of TPIC, please choose amongst them!
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think it will go recalls, flows/SSP, and military, as the composition of classes over the next few years. There is also a rumor floating around here that Delta plans to interview everyone at 9E, all at once, and put them in an SSP pool. This is an incentive to get people to stay at 9E, since people here are dropping like flies. I have 6 friends that put in their two week notice over the past 2 weeks alone.

No one is going to come work for 9E after what has gone on here the last few years and the contract.
I find this auctioning off of Delta pilot jobs with concessions very distasteful.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Who????????
Baaaaazzing.

Just some random news clip that came up when I was following the asiana link.

Glee fans everywhere are wearing black veils.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilioLizardo
I'm really hoping you guys don't start running with the whole "female no TPIC" crap. Every female pilot I know of here at Delta was either a Captain or aircraft Commander in their former lives. I have heard of PEOPLE, male and female, getting the interview with no TPIC. While it boggles the mind that Delta would even consider such candidates, it is Delta's decision to do so. Delta does NOT hire on a quota of any kind, so please let's stay away from the female bashing. However, I also hope Delta refrains from further handicapping future female hires by not interviewing/ hiring anyone with less than the COMPETITIVE qualifications. There are hundreds of females in the military and at the regionals with thousands of hours of TPIC, please choose amongst them!
Agreed. Got a buddy (male) who was hired with no 121 PIC. He had a long history of service for Delta and is an excellent pilot. The folks in charge of selection have an terrific history of making good calls.
Old 07-14-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Glee fans everywhere are wearing black veils.
Understand he was flying just about all the time, or at least pretty high.

(too soon?)
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