I'm sure you meant "meet the competitive minimums." No one gets hired at the actual DL minimums. 4000 hours was the lowest any civilian got called with last round- TPIC was highly competitive but not 100% required (in my newhire class, we had a senior ASA FO who was also a DL FA at the same time). That will likely remain to be the low end threshold. Military of course have a separate scale of competitive times due to the nature of their career path.

 

I'm trying to understand this system of flowthroughs and guaranteed interviews, but in the words of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer", it "frightens and confuses me."

From the Compass section on this website...
Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll.
Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month.

So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20.

I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement?

If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

Compass last time let the 20 go a month but they have a 90 day hold back if needed. The pilots held back do recieve their seniority/longevity in the class they are held back from though. Compass has always had ATP mins because it is in the contract that newhires get an ATP and a PIC type. They also have about 70 pilots in the hiring pool waiting for classes. Can a CP pilot please make a post outlining this and sticky it for everyone? Lots of explaining this all lately, im not that well versed in it. Just know the basics.

 

Last round, they got their seniority numbers as a shadow spot in class and went to class when CPZ released them due to staffing needs. Though they had seniority numbers earlier in the cycle, they finally went to class later in the hiring cycle.

 

Is Compass over staffed by chance?

 

I would say we are appropriately staffed. As previously mentioned we have approximately 70 hired to a pool awaiting the word from Delta.

 

Could mean more street hiring than some are thinking

Which is what I heard Delta prefers anyway. I have heard they are not very fond of the flow agreements anyway-- not flaming, just saying what was out there is all.

 

I don't understand why no one understands this. Remember it is more than just CP that has this or something similar. Don't see why they would do that if they didn't like these bridge type programs.

 

Zero TPIC is "competitive?"
not for my demographic.

 

Who????????