Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-15-2013 | 12:41 PM
Da Hudge
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Buzz, you liked the WDR upload? I just used it 4 or 5 times, and found it to be more pain than gain. We got runway changes several times and it would have been easier to just enter the data, rather than accepting/reviewing or rejecting/entering. Also, it always gives you very very close to a balanced field, which IMO is not a good thing. If your Capt is slightly more conservative, the auto chosen WDR nums don't work and have to be rejected before manual entry (to get rid of the prompt). I kinda felt it was one more thing removing me another step from being in touch with the jet, right at the time when we're trying to boost hand-flying pilot-brain-deciding-engaged.
OTOH, I can see that if you do accept the suggested WDR, it could speed things up. It was pretty neat-o, and it gives you something to look forward to if you're bored around D04.
OTOH, I can see that if you do accept the suggested WDR, it could speed things up. It was pretty neat-o, and it gives you something to look forward to if you're bored around D04.
My technique to keep engaged: I press print, write down pax and zfw directly from the acars screen, then go straight to the perf page, verify the correct ZFW (and ZFWCG on fifi) and calculate current actual weight. I write that down- by that time the printer is finally finished, I glance at the weights on line 2 for the desired runway, make sure that's good and dive over to the TDU and insert it. That way all the info is in, I've reviewed it, and the data is ready and waiting for the captain to verify it.
07-15-2013 | 12:54 PM
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We call it TDU on the fifi fleet... does it default to line 2 for the runway desired for yall? I've found that typically gives a couple thousand pounds of pad on the weights, and the process saves me 25-30 key strokes.
My technique to keep engaged: I press print, write down pax and zfw directly from the acars screen, then go straight to the perf page, verify the correct ZFW (and ZFWCG on fifi) and calculate current actual weight. I write that down- by that time the printer is finally finished, I glance at the weights on line 2 for the desired runway, make sure that's good and dive over to the TDU and insert it. That way all the info is in, I've reviewed it, and the data is ready and waiting for the captain to verify it.
My technique to keep engaged: I press print, write down pax and zfw directly from the acars screen, then go straight to the perf page, verify the correct ZFW (and ZFWCG on fifi) and calculate current actual weight. I write that down- by that time the printer is finally finished, I glance at the weights on line 2 for the desired runway, make sure that's good and dive over to the TDU and insert it. That way all the info is in, I've reviewed it, and the data is ready and waiting for the captain to verify it.
07-15-2013 | 12:55 PM
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So what's the over/under on the number of applications DAL gets for 300 positions?
07-15-2013 | 01:02 PM
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Anyone know how I can get to Fed Ex or UPS at JFK from Term 4 besides a cab?
07-15-2013 | 01:10 PM
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07-15-2013 | 01:12 PM
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07-15-2013 | 01:14 PM
Da Hudge
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The funny thing is, in reality doing what I wrote there takes all of about 10-15 seconds to do. Took wayyyy longer to write.
07-15-2013 | 01:26 PM
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07-15-2013 | 01:38 PM
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We call it TDU on the fifi fleet... does it default to line 2 for the runway desired for yall? I've found that typically gives a couple thousand pounds of pad on the weights, and the process saves me 25-30 key strokes.
My technique to keep engaged: I press print, write down pax and zfw directly from the acars screen, then go straight to the perf page, verify the correct ZFW (and ZFWCG on fifi) and calculate current actual weight. I write that down- by that time the printer is finally finished, I glance at the weights on line 2 for the desired runway, make sure that's good and dive over to the TDU and insert it. That way all the info is in, I've reviewed it, and the data is ready and waiting for the captain to verify it.
My technique to keep engaged: I press print, write down pax and zfw directly from the acars screen, then go straight to the perf page, verify the correct ZFW (and ZFWCG on fifi) and calculate current actual weight. I write that down- by that time the printer is finally finished, I glance at the weights on line 2 for the desired runway, make sure that's good and dive over to the TDU and insert it. That way all the info is in, I've reviewed it, and the data is ready and waiting for the captain to verify it.
07-15-2013 | 01:39 PM
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I went backdooring (PBS wise you filthy bastards) and nothing. What new PBS algorithm are you talking about? Did something change?
Some backdoor B's and A's are out again.
Wow, the new PBS topdown algorithm seems to have TOTALLY boofed me!
I kid you not, what has worked very well for years this time worked... but didn't. It gave me everything I asked for but did it by saying immediately "Ok, here's the four worst trips in the bidpack... AWARD TRIPS. Weekends off honored, AvDaily credit/Redeye/min-layover not honored. Here's your 16 hr 4-day redeyes...WhaaaaaBAM!
I'm going to have to about triple my PBS algorithm lines it seems, and line by line "award... avoid...but award THIS while avoiding ABC..." Gah.
I hope this is just an interim version I'm seeing, and it gets re-run for me again!
Wow, the new PBS topdown algorithm seems to have TOTALLY boofed me!
I kid you not, what has worked very well for years this time worked... but didn't. It gave me everything I asked for but did it by saying immediately "Ok, here's the four worst trips in the bidpack... AWARD TRIPS. Weekends off honored, AvDaily credit/Redeye/min-layover not honored. Here's your 16 hr 4-day redeyes...WhaaaaaBAM!
I'm going to have to about triple my PBS algorithm lines it seems, and line by line "award... avoid...but award THIS while avoiding ABC..." Gah.
I hope this is just an interim version I'm seeing, and it gets re-run for me again!
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