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Old 08-14-2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
we are all now looking at a AI 777LR



sorry firstmob, I've got a 30 min ride to a hotel that's not downtown. best part is we just watched our FAs walk into the short layover and their overnight is longer than ours. then we left.
No problem, been there done that. I thought it was funny also. Firstmob
Old 08-14-2013 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Now if we acquired Alaska Air Lines and Alaska Air Group wanted to outsource to SkyWest their flying as Alaska Air Group it is assumed that would be AS code. If Skywest tried to fill Alaska's shoes, I think it would still be a "Category B" operation limited to 70 seats, 85,000 pounds or a Dash 8 like Horizon has(d).
Interesting theory. I have a long KEF layover so I will study this a little more, but as I said in my other post.. and to the best of my recollection... this is precisely the scenario that concerned me about our scope section. I hope you are right, but the hair on the back of my neck is a little active.

How about this as a workaround: What if DAL were to keep AK as a separate entity (a la AirTran at SWA) and use that as a wedge? Is that possible or practical? I think that is what you are saying above as having the protection of OUR scope, but I am not so sure... I dunno.. too much coffee this morning.
Old 08-14-2013 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
This was one thing that had me concerned in C12K. The fact that OUR scope might be dependent on another carrier's scope. Specifically I was concerned about Alaska. While I didn't think a merger with them was of practical matter, conceptually it bothered me.
It is more that they piggyback off or our scope. That should aid our case in a merger (since our flying is ours and only their 737's are theirs).

Bottom line: Non permitted aircraft should equal merger if acquired.

I don't think we would bother acquiring Alaska's 737's without also acquiring their brand. It would be senseless to buy the airline just to have it spring back up again with lower costs as Skywest dba Alaska.
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
As to AMR merging with Alaska, I think Mr Anderson will make AMR pay thru the nose to do so, ...
You have a high degree of confidence in RA's business acumen. I don't dispute that.

So...in DALPA's rush to get a quick agreement during a period of record profits, did RA make DALPA "pay thru the nose," or did we make them "pay thru the nose"?

Hint: we still have no retirement and we working for less than we did 12 years ago---even more when you consider how inflation has eroded our buying power, not to mention we're working much more with fewer pilots.
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by index
You have a high degree of confidence in RA's business acumen. I don't dispute that.

So...in DALPA's rush to get a quick agreement during a period of record profits, did RA make DALPA "pay thru the nose," or did we make them "pay thru the nose"?

Hint: we still have no retirement and we working for less than we did 12 years ago---even more when you consider how inflation has eroded our buying power, not to mention we're working much more with fewer pilots.
Your argument is diluted when you use the phrases such as "rush to get thru a quick agreement". I would love to discuss the business aspect of all this as I find it interesting. Since you apparently have a desire to turn it into a dALPA bash fest, have at it, but I am not interested in playing.

buh bye.
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
RIP and tailwinds.......
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:29 AM
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Anybody know how we can get Carl Icahn to tweet that he just bought 10,000,000 shares of DAL? (Not that I WANT him to buy it, but wow... talk about power.)
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Anybody know how we can get Carl Icahn to tweet that he just bought 10,000,000 shares of DAL? (Not that I WANT him to buy it, but wow... talk about power.)
Probably several of us know how, but those who know how also have some idea of what kind of trouble we could be in.
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Anybody know how we can get Carl Icahn to tweet that he just bought 10,000,000 shares of DAL? (Not that I WANT him to buy it, but wow... talk about power.)
Barf!!!!!!!!!!
Old 08-14-2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Barf!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, but look at what those 140 words did for AAPL in the last 2 days...

Don't get me wrong, I have no interest in having him as a large shareholder in DAL... my comment was on how much power some people have.
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