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08-29-2013, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Man, Clamp, you have some serious 73 issues. You must have had some bad experiences. The former Bus CAs I fly with love the 73. Plus, they can see the screens in daylight.
And I'm more angry at Boeing then the 737. 
The avionics are really nice. And with a nice headset, I think the noise isn't an issue. I've sat jump in several of ours lately, and it's kind of growing on me. But it can never be a 757.
08-29-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I'm only quote myself to start the conversation...
I think DPA has had it's chance - it's been three years. Rather than be divisive going into C2015, I think TC and others should man up and either say they have the cards for an election or they don't. If they haven't been able to get the cards yet, they probably aren't going to.
Going into C2015 with DPA hanging over everyone's head will only make us weaker, divide us when we should be strong, and in the eyes of the company, it makes us look weak and we might end up with a worse contract because of it.
Yes, there are the DPA folks who say if we only could get rid of ALPA we could have an even better contract - but if DPA doesn't have enough cards to call for an election, then they don't have the numbers and it's not going to happen. Sorry - but in that case the pilots have spoken.
I think DPA has had it's chance - it's been three years. Rather than be divisive going into C2015, I think TC and others should man up and either say they have the cards for an election or they don't. If they haven't been able to get the cards yet, they probably aren't going to.
Going into C2015 with DPA hanging over everyone's head will only make us weaker, divide us when we should be strong, and in the eyes of the company, it makes us look weak and we might end up with a worse contract because of it.
Yes, there are the DPA folks who say if we only could get rid of ALPA we could have an even better contract - but if DPA doesn't have enough cards to call for an election, then they don't have the numbers and it's not going to happen. Sorry - but in that case the pilots have spoken.
08-29-2013, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I told TC directly that the abortion comment was highly inappropriate and turned me off directly. He agreed, apologized again, and called it an emotional outburst in a very intense and exhausting time.
As C2015 approaches, I would like the focus to be just that.
As C2015 approaches, I would like the focus to be just that.
Perhaps I'm being a little hard on him, but the comments were just the final straw for me in a long, litany of harsh criticisms.
FYI, Elvis my response is towards TC's plea and not your post.
08-29-2013, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I've voiced some hate on the 737. But I think that's mainly because it's the replacement for the 757. And I'm more angry at Boeing then the 737. The avionics are really nice. And with a nice headset, I think the noise isn't an issue. I've sat jump in several of ours lately, and it's kind of growing on me. But it can never be a 757.(
And I'm more angry at Boeing then the 737. The avionics are really nice. And with a nice headset, I think the noise isn't an issue. I've sat jump in several of ours lately, and it's kind of growing on me. But it can never be a 757.(
08-29-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I also agree. I'm no ALPA cheerleader but DPA does not come anywhere near my standard for professionalism or competence. TC sunk the deal for me.
08-29-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Man, Clamp, you have some serious 73 issues. You must have had some bad experiences. The former Bus CAs I fly with love the 73. Plus, they can see the screens in daylight.
I loved the trips and the captains were typically cool. It was nice seeing the screens in the daylight, and the FMC was nice except for lacking route 2. Oh, and the automatic radar on the new planes was sweet, but all new airbuses come with that too.
The love for the 737 stops there. It's a warmed over 1950's design (e.g. those fancy engine screens with no ability to do system diagnostic...instead relying on the stupid recall lights, the buzz saw trim wheel, and crappy ventilation) with a really loud and uncomfortable cockpit. Not to mention it handles like a sloppy, anemic 757. I really don't want to see us reward boeing for continued mediocrity by buying more of them.
08-29-2013, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Man, Clamp, you have some serious 73 issues. You must have had some bad experiences. The former Bus CAs I fly with love the 73. Plus, they can see the screens in daylight.
Here's a slogan for you: The Boeing 737: Over-hyping Yesterday's Technology...Today.
08-29-2013, 05:50 PM
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Even though everybody ran right over you, the 200 was just flat fun. [I bid of the "8" to fly it.]....... Now where does the period go, next to the quote thingy?
08-29-2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I agree with that. Trust me. Bigger cockpit and better auto throttles would be nice. I love the way it flies though. It's solid. But I've been on it for quite awhile, I could be jaded.
08-29-2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Here's the way I see it. Ergonomically it leaves things to be desired. Overall, everything below the glareshield is great. Everything above it sucks. Excluding the CAs HUD.
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