Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-31-2013 | 05:35 PM
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08-31-2013 | 05:36 PM
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08-31-2013 | 05:38 PM
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08-31-2013 | 05:42 PM
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My only point to the historical revisionists (not you) is that Delta had a financial and contractual obligation for almost all the RJ lift at PCL whether they liquidated or reorganized. And that obligation had a significant input into the Delta network.
08-31-2013 | 05:44 PM
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So please tell me that if Pinnacle/Endeavor had liquidated, how many RJ's would Delta still have had ownership responsibility for? Hint: the answer was in the bankruptcy disclosures, and it was 141 CRJ-200 and 41 CRJ-900. PCL was only obligated to 16 CRJ-900, and those along with the former Colgan Q400 were the first aircraft they rejected in court. Oh, and tell me what Delta would have looked like with the loss of 1/3 of DCI over the summer...I think they were about 8% of our domestic network.
You choose to ignore reality. Your view would have not been the most beneficial outcome for Delta mainline pilots.
You choose to ignore reality. Your view would have not been the most beneficial outcome for Delta mainline pilots.
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08-31-2013 | 05:56 PM
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Carl,
As you might imagine, there are times when I get involved in local politics. My family never considers moving. We think we live in a great place. As a citizen it is our role to get involved and maintain, or improve that standard for those who come after us. You seem to be of a like mind on this kind of action.
As you might imagine, there are times when I get involved in local politics. My family never considers moving. We think we live in a great place. As a citizen it is our role to get involved and maintain, or improve that standard for those who come after us. You seem to be of a like mind on this kind of action.
When you call my participation in a democratic process (joining the DPA) "like moving to Iran", it's the same eye rolling level of hyperbole most conservatives have become accustomed to. It doesn't move the ball at all, and it never will.
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08-31-2013 | 06:03 PM
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So please tell me that if Pinnacle/Endeavor had liquidated, how many RJ's would Delta still have had ownership responsibility for? Hint: the answer was in the bankruptcy disclosures, and it was 141 CRJ-200 and 41 CRJ-900. PCL was only obligated to 16 CRJ-900, and those along with the former Colgan Q400 were the first aircraft they rejected in court. Oh, and tell me what Delta would have looked like with the loss of 1/3 of DCI over the summer...I think they were about 8% of our domestic network.
You choose to ignore reality. Your view would have not been the most beneficial outcome for Delta mainline pilots.
You choose to ignore reality. Your view would have not been the most beneficial outcome for Delta mainline pilots.
the "time limited opportunity" along with engine overhaul requirements). Management needed to quickly implement a program to switch out and renew contracts before heaven forbid someone from the union fought against outsourced C-scale pilots performing Delta flying. Focus on the the 717 yall....don't watch what I am doing with this other hand.
Management and you fail to bring that up though. Your response is so management groupthink ingrained you completely overlooked the obvious answer to your own question..."Oh, and tell me what Delta would have looked like with the loss of 1/3 of DCI over the summer...I think they were about 8% of our domestic network."
The answer: A transition program implemented well ahead of time to keep the planes flying.....By DELTA MAINLINE PILOTS!
08-31-2013 | 06:07 PM
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Johnso, you just demonstrated (with help from your union friend) how you dispense anything and everything you can conjure up to defend mother ALPA at all costs even if it is misleading and untrue.
08-31-2013 | 06:16 PM
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What about economic reality? What about feed and the fact that increasing express costs too much will result in less feed, feed which eventually finds its way to your jet at the top of the food chain? Economically, I do not know that we can get any progress without enormous flexibility.
The cost of extending our seniority list down, as Pan Am did with Ransome, is much smaller than any other alternative. IMHO, our best, most pragmatic, option for scope restoration is unity. Expanding as ancient Rome did, by making those conquered "Romans."
The cost of extending our seniority list down, as Pan Am did with Ransome, is much smaller than any other alternative. IMHO, our best, most pragmatic, option for scope restoration is unity. Expanding as ancient Rome did, by making those conquered "Romans."
You can't show one shred of evidence to back that claim up about DPA.
Sorta? How's that? In any way shape or form, how is ALPA attempting to sunset Delta's express jet flying?
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08-31-2013 | 06:20 PM
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"We are sunsetting the Delta express flying by reducing the total number of uneconomical 50 seaters with a fewer number of very economical DC 9 size RJ's (with new long term contracts) flown by other than Delta pilots. It's a win. It's a win. It's a win (plugging ears now). It's a win.....
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