You gotta laugh. ATL-CLT is a 30-35 minute flight. Blocks at 1:20-1:25 now. And you still might not be on time on a clear day.

Why? Because CLT doesn't like airplanes pointed at them or away from them, they just don't like airplanes.

Just read an email from the A320 fleet to instructors. According to the letter Boeing and AB were both in town pitching deals. The company was leaning hard towards AB but very recently Boeing has sweetened its deal.

Could be why no announcement yet. I apologize for taking everyone away from the DPA vs DALPA debate.

No kidding.

Atlanta's the best, CLT is the worst, Detroit just seems to like to keep the airplanes airborne as long as they can.

I'm sorry, but with the various demographics of our pilot group I really don't see how that's possible. If someone is 63 years old, will they have the same level of priorities as someone who is 33?

I too heard last week that Boeing had taken the lead for the RFP award.

Hi Denny,

I'm confident it was LOA 46, because I was back for 51, and everything had unfolded before my return. I (and many others) were then recalled on Delta's own schedule, when they wanted me. It was probably not a lot later than the recall schedule called for some of us, maybe a lot later for others. I really never retroactively placed the arbitrator's schedule against the actual recall chronology. The point is that all of it was done strictly on Delta's schedule, except for the "FM II" group.

I don't lose sleep over this stuff: I was just trying to add some perspective to the conversation.

Now you're venturing onto areas that are best left to others. It's not a good idea to describe appropriate choices for people placed in a situation you don't fully grasp.

One guy blew his brains out. Many others found out their spouses weren't into furloughed Delta pilots. Not every father runs an insurance company, and an insurance company is no cockpit.

I was very aggressive at finding a replacement job, and very "lucky". I fed my family, and had that satisfaction. I also paid off my career debt, so that was good. Other than that, I hated every day at work, feeling like a fish out of the water. My company fired 20% every year, and hired 20% every year. I learned a little about human behavior those Friday mornings, when I saw people leaving their cubicles with a little box of personal effects, and a portion of their dignity: you feel bad for them until noon. By the time you drive home, you're just overcome with relief it wasn't you. That's how these things work, and it's true in our industry as well: we do a little for the furloughees, we talk about them, but mostly we're just glad we're not in their shoes.

Which makes it difficult to lecture them on the circumstances under which they might have liked to return to work. Many guys would have given their left nut for a 6-months stint, with a 75% chance of re-furlough.

You're a smart person, and a very informed poster. I have a lot of respect for much of your work. You can validate that respect by acknowledging you're wrong, when you're wrong. You were probably correct about the numbers of green slips, but you took a wrong turn in this last post.

So the announcement is slipping until when? After the free beer tomorrow? :rolleyes: If this keeps sliding they won't get here until summer 16' flying.

Any word on the next AE and fact or fiction about delay's in 717 deliveries? Yeah, I heard October, but with just 1, and will the monthly deleivery schedule hold up?

Hi Bar,

I honestly can't discuss the BOD actions intelligently: I wasn't even aware of them at the time.

I agree on the DPA. The bid for power has not succeeded; they just can't seem to come to terms with it in a constructive way. We do need one voice speaking for the Delta pilots from this point, with no impairment.

Great post. You summed up my furlough experience perfectly.