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Old 09-04-2013, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
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For people who like this kind of thing. Can't you see the FO yawning from here?
Yes...awful, simply awful



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Old 09-04-2013, 02:16 PM
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FAA JSer: 717 interior certification is a disaster.

before you blame the FAA just know they already blame the sequester.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:23 PM
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FAA JSer: 717 interior certification is a disaster.

before you blame the FAA just know they already blame the sequester.
Can RA find some way to milk SWA some more over this fiasco?
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
Yes...awful, simply awful



Originally Posted by orvil
Do you think the monitors will be any brighter?

I was so tired of the eye strain, I decided to sacrifice my hearing and go back to the Boeing. (The tray table was nice.)

The top picture is what we have now, in fact that's NW bird. The lower picture is the new LCD screens. They are larger, you can see them in the daytime, and they actually dim to a reasonable level at night.

The new planes are equipped with the fully automatic radar like what is on the new delivery 737s and 777s. That fixes the two things I like least about fifi: The crappy radar and the screens that are too dim in the day and don't dim enough at night.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Obama has answered the concerns that his desire to strike Syria has to do with his drawing of a red line last year if Syria used chemical weapons. Obama and Kerry have answered those concerns by reminding everyone that Obama never drew any red lines on this topic.

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Spin at its finest.

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Really? Here on APC? Now, with a new aircraft order, DPA vs. DALPA, UAL SLI, and pay banding for a future merger to discuss? [EDIT] Plus, isn't Timbo a hater? [End Edit] Come on, Carl. Give it a rest.

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Old 09-04-2013, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Really? Here on APC? Now, with a new aircraft order, DPA vs. DALPA, UAL SLI, and pay banding for a future merger to discuss? Come on, Carl. Give it a rest.
Don't forget to add in there that Timbo is a hater.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Don't forget to add in there that Timbo is a hater.

I forgot about that. I'll add it...
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I don't disagree with you about Airbus. But until our merger threats diminish, more pay banding equals ratios moving further up the list with an Alaska Airlines type merger.

Carl
What if a merger doesn't happen? Pay banding simplifies things. It also helps the company make more money which could end up in our pockets.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Asked and answered numerous times. Recalling reps doesn't matter because Mr. Moak has yet again proven that reps don't matter. Our union under Mr. Moak has no local control of itself whatsoever. Mr. Moak continues to foster outsourcing of our jobs in his vain attempt to gain worldwide control of the pilot labor market. I have no say, you have no say, and our reps have no say. When you understand that, you'll understand I have no interest in chasing my tail "fixing ALPA from within" when there is so much work left to do in freeing ourselves from an ALPA so set on giving away our treasure to reach its goal.

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Then recall the reps that are voting on the president Carl. It is within your right to do so. If reps who support Mr. Moak aren't recalled then you in essence are happy with your current representation including the president. Get involved!
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
What if a merger doesn't happen? Pay banding simplifies things. It also helps the company make more money which could end up in our pockets.
Ok, that just isn't logical at all... it helps the company make more money by:
1. reducing the pilot desire to move between planes due to pay differences
2. which results in less training
3. which results in less pilots being off the line at training
4. which both result in less pilots needed
5. which all three result in cost savings to the company
6. which ALSO all result in stagnation for pilots, less QOL options, and fewer pilots being hired.

So you seriously think it would be a good thing to take an absolute reduction in pay, QOL, and advancement for the pilots, and then HOPE that somehow mgt will take that $$ and give it to the pilots via some unspecified contract win, rather than say buying GOL, Virgin Atlantic, stock buyback, mgt bonuses, or stockholder dividends.

Having a lottery could result somebody getting more money which could end up in my pocket TOO (if I happen to have an unknown relative or benefactor that wins, and then wills it all to me), but it's probably not a good basis for my financial planning.
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