Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-04-2013, 01:12 PM
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09-04-2013, 01:17 PM
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Your bullet points (like the rest of this laundry list) are not facts. They are your opinions and completely mischaracterized writings. You're certainly entitled to your opinions as is Kingsley, but they're not facts. DPA's plans will only be decided upon by a members vote after a successful decertification vote of ALPA. You ALPA no matter what guys will do and/or say ANYTHING to keep that vote from happening. Your panic is actually painful to watch.
Self serving spin and panicked hyperbole won't work for you guys anymore. IMO, you're only hope of keeping ALPA here would be a complete and public repudiation of Mr. Moak and an absolute promise by our local leaders to vote against Moak's reelection, admit to the endemic conflict of interest within ALPA, and provide a clear plan to bring back all Delta branded flying to the Delta pilots seniority list.
You do those things and I'll tear up my DPA card and work for DALPA everyday til I retire.
Carl
Self serving spin and panicked hyperbole won't work for you guys anymore. IMO, you're only hope of keeping ALPA here would be a complete and public repudiation of Mr. Moak and an absolute promise by our local leaders to vote against Moak's reelection, admit to the endemic conflict of interest within ALPA, and provide a clear plan to bring back all Delta branded flying to the Delta pilots seniority list.
You do those things and I'll tear up my DPA card and work for DALPA everyday til I retire.
Carl
The DPA Constitution is effective upon certification.
October 29, 2010 DPA Begins Writing Constitution and By-Laws
Today the Delta Pilots Association begins the process of writing its Constitution and By-Laws. All Delta Air Lines Pilots can have a hand in writing these important and historical documents by signing up for membership in DPA. All members that participate in this process will be considered founding contributors and will be honored by finding their names attached as signatories on the final version of our Constitution to be released after DPA wins the National Mediation Board provided election.
Today the Delta Pilots Association begins the process of writing its Constitution and By-Laws. All Delta Air Lines Pilots can have a hand in writing these important and historical documents by signing up for membership in DPA. All members that participate in this process will be considered founding contributors and will be honored by finding their names attached as signatories on the final version of our Constitution to be released after DPA wins the National Mediation Board provided election.
- DPA announces dues will be lowered to anywhere between 1%-1.75% depending on where you read the website yet the constitution says they will go up without MEMRAT to 2.25% next year. ALPA can't raise dues today without a vote.
The dues rate shall be 1.75% upon initial certification by the National Mediation Board. On January 1st of the second full fiscal year following initial certification, the dues rate shall drop annually by 0.25% every year until reaching a minimum dues rate of 1%. Special Circumstance Exception: Six (6) months prior to the amendable date of the Pilot Working Agreement, or upon early opening of negotiations if greater than six (6) months prior to the amendable date, or upon notification of a possible bankruptcy or merger initiated by the Company, the dues rate will temporarily increase by 0.5% until the new contract is ratified, or bankruptcy proceedings or merger integration is complete.
- They say that FPL is bad yet they increased FPL for all volunteers including those that don't get FPL like that today over today's limits and pay for it out of the budget since they will take that money value assigned to the contract and spread it amongst the pilots. No, wait, make that the reps as the FPL is going up the money would go to them not the CBA.
The compensation/salaries of all Officers, Representatives and Committee Chairpersons of the Association shall be based on bidding for and flying one half (1/2) of the Average Line Value (ALV) of the awarded Category (as defined by the Pilot Working Agreement) or completing an equivalent amount of reserve duty. In addition, the Association will pay a salary of one half (1/2) of the ALV of the Category bid plus a premium of thirty percent (30%) of the ALV for the President and twenty-five percent (25%) of the ALV for all other Officers, Representatives and Committee Chairpersons.
- USAPA payed over $7 million in legal fees to SSM&P in less than 4 years after the vote. SSMP&P is charging 50% of their $250 fee, per their contract, with the rest outstanding after certification, yet the DPA has mysteriously paid a number so small that it can only be called incidental costs from the DPA logs. Where's the legal bill?
USAPSA v SSM&P S.D.N.Y 7:12-cv-01981-ER
- There's a second law firm on the DPA books that has charged more to the DPA than SSM&P so far. How could that be possible?
- New hires, pilots returning from disability and MILOA can't be reps for 2 years, nor could a pilot from a merged airline because of the 2 year good standing rule
1. Officer candidates must be active members in Good Standing for the preceding two years prior to being eligible to serve.
- New hires have to pay a maintenance fee their first year. Not about money, right?
A member's obligation for dues shall commence as of the date of eligibility for Active membership. Exception: New hire pilots will not pay dues during the first year of employment. New hire pilots will pay a $25.00 monthly service fee until the first anniversary of date of employment.
- Look through the USAPA LM2 and see the 6 figure employees they have. You want to know why? That's what good help costs today.
- "A contract which is understandable, enforceable and beneficial to both parties and should not exceed 200 pages." Really? Beneficial to the company? An iron clad 200 pages?
- Voting on everything and everybody. Where will you find the time?
- 25% of the pilots in a block to get a resolution passed vs simply majority at an LEC today? Harder to use the pilots will.
1. Any Active member or group of members in Good Standing has the right to petition (make a resolution) through the membership. 2. A petition containing signatures of twenty-five (25) percent or more of all Active members in Good Standing in a single Seniority Block shall constitute a valid petition.
09-04-2013, 01:31 PM
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Obama has answered the concerns that his desire to strike Syria has to do with his drawing of a red line last year if Syria used chemical weapons. Obama and Kerry have answered those concerns by reminding everyone that Obama never drew any red lines on this topic.
Skip ahead to 1:50...
Spin at its finest.
Carl
Skip ahead to 1:50...
Spin at its finest.
Carl
09-04-2013, 01:35 PM
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09-04-2013, 01:36 PM
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What about ALPA needs to be changed in your mind hitimefurl?...assuming Mr. Moak agreed to allow your change that is.
Because you won't post facts, you just post a long boring list of your opinions on what things mean. If you really want to discuss any of this, pick one point at a time, post the actual words from DPA in question, then discuss what you think it means. We'll go from there.
Carl
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09-04-2013, 01:47 PM
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09-04-2013, 01:57 PM
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What a hairball on here. It's not a huge order, and it's just a top up for the next few years. Doesn't mean there won't be another small order in a few years. A few things stick out to me:
The 330-300 vs the -200. It's a big plane. 777 big. Lots of people. Need someplace to fly that big of an airplane. So it's either going to replace the 7ER on some routes, or it's going to serve new ones. My bet is it's going to free up 330-200's to overfly Japan and be used on heavier routes like SEA-NRT or LAX-HND. In the summer, expect to see it a lot in Europe at the hubs. There is plenty of life left in the 7ER's, and they are still being retrofitted with brand new interiors, not just new seats. Might see some new markets with those.
The 321 is a nice jet. Wouldn't surprise me to see more of those either.
Whether we ultimately grow, stay the same, or shrink depends on the global economy more than anything else.
The 330-300 vs the -200. It's a big plane. 777 big. Lots of people. Need someplace to fly that big of an airplane. So it's either going to replace the 7ER on some routes, or it's going to serve new ones. My bet is it's going to free up 330-200's to overfly Japan and be used on heavier routes like SEA-NRT or LAX-HND. In the summer, expect to see it a lot in Europe at the hubs. There is plenty of life left in the 7ER's, and they are still being retrofitted with brand new interiors, not just new seats. Might see some new markets with those.
The 321 is a nice jet. Wouldn't surprise me to see more of those either.
Whether we ultimately grow, stay the same, or shrink depends on the global economy more than anything else.
09-04-2013, 01:57 PM
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09-04-2013, 01:58 PM
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09-04-2013, 02:02 PM
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