Quick question for those who have experience with it.

I was extended into my golden day causing me to overnight and get released just over 8 hours into my day off. What am I owed as a reserve guy? They just pushed back my long call start time by 8 hrs when I start my next reserve block and said reroute pay would take a look at it. As far as I can tell, I'm not getting any extra pay (greenslip, etc.) other than what the rigs added to the trip. Since I never break guarantee, that's a big fat zero except for the measly per diem. It's just hard to believe they can push me into my day off and destroy the plans that I had without paying any type of penalty.

Did I miss something that should have taken place?

 

You should be given a pay back day somewhere on your Sep schedule. If there is no room for it, they will put one in your bank.

 

Its football season and we haven't had a cheerleader on L&G for like 10 days.
Whassup with that?

 

Woah. Where are all the Air Tran flights? I just taxied past the C Concourse in Atlanta and there is not one AT 737 or 717 on the west side! Maybe the SWA / AT merger was a good thing for Delta.

 

Just curious, how is that different from being extended into a non golden day off?

 

Question. ...

What do users of this board think of shutting down the ALPA web board?

Apparently it costs money and is a PITA to administer. Legally it has some risks too.

I like the idea that we can discuss crew room stuff without being in the open, but I have been admonished there for vanilla recaps of Flight Ops briefings.

Yet, the same old personal attacks are not interesting.

It says something that we moderate ourselves better than pilots posting to coworkers are sometimes willing to do. I may toss up a resolution to kill the ALPA board. We might be able to talk APC into password protecting a forum.

What does everyone else think?

 

The DALPA Hanger talk is what you are referring to, yes?

It has gotten pretty useless lately, dominated by a couple nitwits who hijack every thread to their own po'd view of...Everything! I just ignore them (wish it had an ignore button!) and carry on.

I think it still serves a useful purpose as a place to go to get quick info, 24/7, as we find ourselves on the other side of the planet with a question sometimes and there's nobody home at the DALPA, company or Chief Pilot offices. I don't think it should be shut down just because a few nitwits are always there. There is some good info available as well.

I would also like to see an APC password protected Delta Pilots only forum where we all have to use our Real Names! And where Underboob wouldn't be Censored!

Free Jesse!

 

Good questions.

It's nice to see the L&G behave more like the L&G, now that posters interested in representation issues have focused on the other thread, in good faith (my compliments to everyone for keeping it there, and keeping it pretty clean). I think this is good for everyone.

Some topics entail a lot of posts on one big issue, some topics have few posts, on a variety of smaller issues, entertainment, and discussions. The representation discussion is completely overwhelming the forum, which is pretty ironic considering it's not supposed to take place.

I think it would do a great disservice to the lurkers of the Hangar Talk section, just as in the L&G, to kill the whole thing over the actions of a few. Conversely, I don't think you can stop people from getting at the representation discussion obliquely, and so you have a full-on campaign going on Hangar Talk right now.

The solution might to model the forum after what we have right now on APC: 1) create a sub-section for representation issues, 2) systematically delete everything in Hangar Talk that belongs in that other section. This would stop the practice of deleting terms such as "DPA".

Of course, giving the DPA a place to play on the ALPA forum would presume the reciprocal, where you wouldn't have to be a member to discuss representation issues to participate on that website.

Bottom line is: there are a lot of users to these forums besides us frequent posters. If there are real obvious trends, and some people require their own place to play, or a topic obvious requires it's own place, then it should get a specific space. It's really very simple.

 

I was posting at the same time as Timbo. I think he has the pulse of the Hangar Talk pretty well. He doesn't know who I am, and I don't know who he is, of course, but I wonder if it's possible Timbo and I both recall a time when people had disagreements on the Hangar Talk, and worked through them like adults? That's not currently happening.

 

"Back in the day.." Hanger talk used to be about pilots VS. the company. But since the merger, there have been several posters who only want to discuss how they got screwed, are still being screwed, and always will be screwed. They seem to want to make every thread into a N v S debate, and the DPA thing isn't helping. Until we have "The Vote" it's not going to go away, I wish they'd just vote, asap, and get on with it.

I agree it would be great if there was a separate "New Collective Bargaining Agent" sub forum or such, let them debate it adnausium there.