Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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alfa,
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract. Just like the "gifts" of the 717 and retired 50 seat RJ's. Oh, and my favorite, the max of 14 hours of duty for short call reserve.
When I buy my kids sweaters and school supplies for Christmas, they know the deal (we were going to get them those things anyway.) Why don't we?
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract. Just like the "gifts" of the 717 and retired 50 seat RJ's. Oh, and my favorite, the max of 14 hours of duty for short call reserve.
When I buy my kids sweaters and school supplies for Christmas, they know the deal (we were going to get them those things anyway.) Why don't we?

Let's not even mention the 5% cut in profit sharing to "help" fund the raises. Anyone else have a problem with this?
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As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
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I assume you'll turn down the flow since you think so little of your future co-workers??? We're all a bunch of rollovers with no spine eh?
Here's a better idea: Thank us when your turn comes up and you watch DCI shrink from your 717 seat. You WILL have to get used to flying 45 minute legs, 5 times a day! Hope you're not above it
Here's a better idea: Thank us when your turn comes up and you watch DCI shrink from your 717 seat. You WILL have to get used to flying 45 minute legs, 5 times a day! Hope you're not above it

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I'm pretty much a Doubting Thomas in regards to anything DALPA. I have never voted yes for a contract. I didn't have a problem with this item.
As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
Straight QOL, homie
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Banging out 3 consecutive trips sure seems like a pattern developing. Your bud may very well be put on the watch list. That should be the concern.
What's up with sick verification? I keep getting emails from ALPA, and DPA about verification.... Is the company asking for verification inside of 100 hours? If so on what grounds? Is this rumor or true?
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....the "bad stuff":
One thing I know for certain. I was never lied to. The "they lied to us" theme is just the latest tactic from Carl's crowd to try and gain support, which only divides us further. I read the contract. Yes, actually read it, not relied on a slideshow, and made my decision. It wasn't perfect, but it was certainly an improvement.
I filled out a card for Carl's group several years ago because their talking points sounded good. As I've dug a little deeper, I've come to realize that ALPA is not the root of all evil (nor is it perfect.)
One thing I know for certain. I was never lied to. The "they lied to us" theme is just the latest tactic from Carl's crowd to try and gain support, which only divides us further. I read the contract. Yes, actually read it, not relied on a slideshow, and made my decision. It wasn't perfect, but it was certainly an improvement.
I filled out a card for Carl's group several years ago because their talking points sounded good. As I've dug a little deeper, I've come to realize that ALPA is not the root of all evil (nor is it perfect.)
ALPA and MGT both want to diversify their pot of honey imo. They don't want too much of the network in our hands. It was a win for both. Ironic that the very group that could have shot this down and has been hurt the most by the RJ, supported it. I'd call that a good sales job!
I don't think ALPA is evil, they just look out for ALPA's interest. The other group would be only our interest represented at the table.
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He had to have spinal fusion surgery to repair bulging disks that were pressing into a nerve. The result of the bulging discs was chronic pain, & his arm going numb. So it was unverified sick time. Then he chose to call and verify it because he would exceed 100 hours of usage.
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