Yeah, I'm going to ask for a paycut to help finance DCI 100 seaters and for every reserve to be on short call 24/7/365. No, for every pilot to be on shortcall 24/7/365. Families are a choice just like commuting. There, my opinion changed.

 

Finis,

No doubt the surveys (probably) overshot, but that isn't the impression I got from something ACL said a few days ago. Even still, If there's going to be a new survey, release the old results.

I still think it is painting rocks.

 

Oh that would be extremely entertaining and it could be devastating to know.

Or maybe not because we're told this is all about the expectations game and I'm sure at this point the company's expectations for an easy and QUICK win were pretty high.

 

If we made $2.6B PTIX, wouldn't it be 10% for the $2.5B amount and then 20% on the remaining $0.1B?

Not 20% on the whole $2.6B just because it exceeded $2.5B.

Is that right?

 

Correct. Not surprised you aren't sure though. Heard a rep at the road show tell a guy the decrease in profit sharing won't matter because we will get 20% on the whole thing. I am hoping he just misunderstood.

 

That has to be right. Otherwise we will never hit the 2.5 number unless we shattered it by several billion, which won't happen. We don't have enough sysyem capacity to gift to the LCC/foreign orderbooks to temporarily print that much short term money anyway.

 

If we're going to wear a Navy like uniform,



isn't about time we get ribbons, pins and badges? And a wider stripe for the Boeing crowd?

And we need insignia for the type of aircraft you are on. Yes.

For instance, here's an MD-88 insignia



Obviously, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 year ribbons.

And ribbons for CQ marksmanship, getting every answer right on the recurrent CD. And ribbons for not calling in sick.

And ribbons for NYC Deployment Ribbon. And Domestic Narrowbody Reserve Ribbon. And Displacement Heart Ribbon. GRU Second Life Ribbon. DTW Overnight And Not Shot Ribbon to go alone with the DAY Overnight And Not Shot Ribbon. A Blown Tire on Takeoff Ribbon. an Attaboy Mention in SD Weekly Email Medal.

And MD-88 Survival School Ribbons. And 7ER I'm Better Than You Ribbon. And Trip Parking Ribbon. 10 Greenslips in a Month Ribbon. Purple 7 Short Calls in a Month Medal. Goes with the Purple ALV+15 Ribbon. A successful Non ILS Approach in IMC Without LNAV Medal.

 

Fair enough, and I apologize for taking your post the wrong way. I still fail to see any benefit in making the results public other than postmortem curiosity. While expectations might have not been met for some or even many, there is nothing at all that the survey would provide that would indicate they COULD have been met in negotiations. There is no upside IMHO. I prefer to move on and look for leverage to exploit in the upcoming negotiations. I think a Virgin JV and $2.3B in profit are a pretty good start, but DPA isn't helping with the sorely needed unity that will be necessary, but then again, that just might be Caplinger's goal.

 

I doubt many opinions have changed much. Mine haven't. I want more $$$, tighter scope, & better retirement. I'd still like to see ALV+15 exclusive to WB categories. SC assignment should be tied to RAW.

That being said, please check your PMs.

 

Brilliant!
Just start here and use the I-kid-you-not Ez Rack Builder

Cheers
George