Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-23-2013 | 06:20 PM
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What I wonder is this: say the MEC is facing a quasi-turd sandwich, and would in fact send the negotiators back in, nice and quiet, and get something a little better, like say an additional 1.5%, 1%, 1%, 1%. No deal is final until signed by the MEC, but no sweetener might be available after a leak. If I was on the company's side, I'd close the shop as soon as the leak occurs.
You have a good point but this give and take has presumably already occurred. Negotiations are now over. The MEC sent out an Alert that we have a new LOA and scheduled a meeting to vote on ratification.
At that point I'd like to know what's in it.
I agree it shouldn't come from a leak. The MEC should put it out. But obviously they decided not to.
09-23-2013 | 06:27 PM
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The only exception might be my theory about whether any fine-tuning can occur after the MEC is considering a TA or LOA. I've asked before, and I've been told that negotiators wouldn't get sent back in. I don't believe this to be true.
09-23-2013 | 06:28 PM
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09-23-2013 | 06:28 PM
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You're kidding, right? You think these things are leaked for the benefit of the group? You're thinking Clark Kent, going to phone booths to change AND make a call to save the world?
I'm thinking more like a weasel.
You leak selectively, parts that are true, but often out of context, and obviously just the bad parts. then you squeal the entire time, and you say you voted against it, and that makes you a hero?
I'm thinking more like a weasel.
You leak selectively, parts that are true, but often out of context, and obviously just the bad parts. then you squeal the entire time, and you say you voted against it, and that makes you a hero?
It is a shame that political siding or infighting has any effect in ongoing union work.
09-23-2013 | 06:34 PM
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Right over my head on the Obamacare, Scambo.
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09-23-2013 | 06:39 PM
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09-23-2013 | 06:48 PM
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OK, I see what you mean. That might be different. You're talking about an act that wasn't really leaked all that much... to the people voting on it.
09-23-2013 | 08:55 PM
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What leverage do we have? We currently have protective language in our Section 1 that management wants out. Why do they want that language out tsquare? Are they concerned that our job protective language isn't strong enough?
Is it your contention that if management wants something, we must give it because you just can't see what leverage we have to fight it?
Wow.
Carl
Is it your contention that if management wants something, we must give it because you just can't see what leverage we have to fight it?
Wow.
Carl
You are stellar at lineal thinking Carl. It is when you have more than one piece on the chessboard where you seize.
Wow indeed.
09-23-2013 | 08:56 PM
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Translation: If Delta wasn't the one that had the ancient agreement, then that agreement is worthless anyway.
It's a business decision based on whether Delta can get that protective language removed from our Section 1. If they can scare us (again) into removing the language, then one business decision will be made. If not, then another business decision will be made.
Carl
It's a business decision based on whether Delta can get that protective language removed from our Section 1. If they can scare us (again) into removing the language, then one business decision will be made. If not, then another business decision will be made.
Carl
09-23-2013 | 09:07 PM
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Well I hope this is not a sign of things to come. Today Delta and Virgin Atlantic received their approval to begin the JV. The result 7 daily flights from NYC-LHG... of those 7 flights, Delta gets 3 (its sad that every time I see a code share or JV, I just assume we will be on the short end)
Adding salt into the wound, the Vikings charter to London for Sunday's game is not on the official airline of the Vikings, rather it's on our new subsidiary Virgin Atlantic. The hits just keep coming!
#not holding out hope we improve our pacific language
Adding salt into the wound, the Vikings charter to London for Sunday's game is not on the official airline of the Vikings, rather it's on our new subsidiary Virgin Atlantic. The hits just keep coming!
#not holding out hope we improve our pacific language
Just dot connecting. It ain't rocket surgery either.
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