Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 674739)

No, I can't comment, as I've never heard of a double staple. I know that there's been recognition on the part of many that the way things have worked in the past have been detrimental to the job security of both regional and mainline pilots. Comair used to be a 2000 pilot airline; it's got fewer than 900 operating now. Just 5 years ago Delta had 1060 pilots on furlough. CMR was hiring, but not DAL guys without seniority resignation. ASA is seeing their "legacy" costs creep up and is furloughing. Mesaba is looking at furloughs. PCL has a TA out for ratification that in many ways undercuts ASA's current book. Those are the economics of our time.:mad:

As I've said before, the Joint Standing Committee has been meeting, mostly in conjunction with Delta MEC meetings or other ALPA events (Safety week, Fee for Departure). What, if anything, comes out of those meetings is for those respective MEC's to communicate.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 674688)

The nice thing is that even the senior guys are starting to see what poor scope does. I have talked to many Senior CA's that get it. The see the 767's and 757's going to the desert and smaller jets taking over their routes. I think many are finally realizing that if we have any hope of stopping the spiral down, we need to make sure the foundation of the airline, its smallest flying, is in sourced. That is a marked change.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 674845)

Maybe we can take some of that phat lewt that the Communications Committee gets and hire someone to reboot the webserver over the holiday weekends.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 674878)

...funny.

I doubt that server "crashes", with such amazing regularity, on week-ends, holidays, or whenever something big happens. I think it's deliberately turned off to afford the full-time baby-sitter(s) a) time off or b) time to prepare an answer.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 674822)

Imagine the surprise on my face when the last CA I flew with, out of the blue, starts talking about how he feels the DCI growth has been bad for the pilot force. He's a reserve CA and is commuting out of SLC to NYC on the MD88. He's not happy. I kept telling him how important it was for him to make sure he lets othe CAs know that this just isn't a junior pilot's problem. CAs are feeling the effects too.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 674845)

Heyas,

Maybe we can take some of that phat lewt that the Communications Committee gets and hire someone to reboot the webserver over the holiday weekends.

Nu

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 674735)

Too early to tell. My question that I still have not had answered is this, " We are to share all of the North Atlantic growth with the AF/KLM JV 50/50. Does this mean that all of the routes we have had to abandon over the last year get split 50-50 when we reenter the markets?" If that it is the case it will cost International "Premium" jobs. I will submit that the inclusive nature of the JV Scope is a positive step in the correct direction. We need small jet scope worded the same way.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 674890)

Ummmm... what? If that is true, then including such wording in small jet scope is... I guess (he says begrudgingly) a small step in the right direction, but I prefer to strike hard while the iron is hot. The highlighted red part of your quote is what frankly scares the hell out of me. I can see management codesharing our jobs right across the Atlantic. Buzz tells me that this is impossible. We'll see what the $2000.00/hour company lawyers will be able to come up with to shoot holes in yet another section of our bulletproof contract. :(