Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-09-2009, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon
What they put out at the road show today was they would demo term 3, and build a connector from 2 to 4 which would also include Customs and immigration. Its a multi year plan and could all be scrapped if we can convince AA to let us take their terminal.
Is that a joke that AA would give up the brand new terminal?? It is a very nice terminal!!! But I know they are not using much of the gate space they have at the terminal.
09-09-2009, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat
Now as for trust. When I spoke with my Reps the last day of the voting window on the Joint Contract about Section One, I was assured that the only flying that Alaska would do for the combined company on the West Coast was from SEA, PDX and LAX. Because I trusted my Reps I voted Yes, That 's right everyone, I vote Yes on the contract, because I believed it was extremely important to bring the NWA pilot up to parity with regards to pay from day one. Now it looks like Alaska is going to do our Mexico flying. But I trusted my Reps, because I didn't have access to all the information that was referenced in Section One. The proof will be in the Puddin"!
09-09-2009, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crazypilot
Is that a joke that AA would give up the brand new terminal?? It is a very nice terminal!!! But I know they are not using much of the gate space they have at the terminal.
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09-09-2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
The reps told you that the only AS code share flying would be from SEA, PDX, and LAX? Isn't that exactly what they are doing now? Or did you think they meant BETWEEN only SEA, PDX, and LAX? The Mexico flying is feeding in and out of LAX which sounds exactly like what they said they would do - ie. feed into and out of only those three cities.
09-09-2009, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by crazypilot
Is that a joke that AA would give up the brand new terminal?? It is a very nice terminal!!! But I know they are not using much of the gate space they have at the terminal.
09-09-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat
My reps told me that Alaska would only feed lax from PDX and SEA. According to a req submitted to the FAA from Delta, we are requesting to code share to the Mexico cities currently flow by the 73N out of lax. I was specifically told Alasja would not do our Mexico flying.
I read the letter of request concerning the Mexico flying and could not understand why there was so much anger since we allowed this feed when we approved the JCBA. But, then, I was never directly missled by a rep.
09-09-2009, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
It's more a trade. Our new terminal in BOS for their new terminal in JFK, where we should have spent the money on a terminal in the first place, not on Mullin's Taj Mahal.
When I had asked our Chief Pilot about this a month back, his response was "I am sure DAL would love the terminal..... It just happens that it is not for sale."
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09-09-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat
Lastly Alfa, although I don't see eye to eye with you and Slowplay on many of these issues...... You're looking at it from the perspective of a player within the organization and I'm looking at it as a day to day blue color line dog, I very much appreciate your participation and your candor in this forum.
Respectfully,
TC
Respectfully,
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09-09-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AAflyer
Probably not, the JFk terminal cost us over a Billion. We were supposed to start service to a few other cities in Europe this past year, I am guessing the economy put a hold on those.
When I had asked our Chief Pilot about this a month back, his response was "I am sure DAL would love the terminal..... It just happens that it is not for sale."
AA
When I had asked our Chief Pilot about this a month back, his response was "I am sure DAL would love the terminal..... It just happens that it is not for sale."
AA
09-09-2009, 02:17 PM
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I originally posted this, because it was claimed there has been no explanation of what happened in Scope negotiations in LOA 51. I agree with you and the negotiators that we can efficiently operate those aircraft. I think you should note that the negotiators did not buy management's line they just reported it to you. What they said was that in the end it came down to take it or leave it. Their calculation, which I also agreed with, was that taking it provided less risk and greater return than leaving it. The MEC agreed and the pilots agreed. It was tough power negotiations but in 1113, every labor group that pressed to test got their contract rejected and their right to strike enjoined. I think we need to change the laws of bankruptcy, it is not a fair fight.
Alfa,
I agree with everything you say above about the 1113, kind of like bargaining with a gun pointed at your head.
I just wanted to point out that the economics of the 76/90 seat jets have greatly changed in our favor - so hopefully we can take advantage of it.
Scoop
Originally Posted by Scoop
I originally posted this, because it was claimed there has been no explanation of what happened in Scope negotiations in LOA 51. I agree with you and the negotiators that we can efficiently operate those aircraft. I think you should note that the negotiators did not buy management's line they just reported it to you. What they said was that in the end it came down to take it or leave it. Their calculation, which I also agreed with, was that taking it provided less risk and greater return than leaving it. The MEC agreed and the pilots agreed. It was tough power negotiations but in 1113, every labor group that pressed to test got their contract rejected and their right to strike enjoined. I think we need to change the laws of bankruptcy, it is not a fair fight.
I agree with everything you say above about the 1113, kind of like bargaining with a gun pointed at your head.
I just wanted to point out that the economics of the 76/90 seat jets have greatly changed in our favor - so hopefully we can take advantage of it.
Scoop
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