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Old 09-30-2009, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Yep, it will.

Here is to hoping......
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER View Post
Why is FMLA a non-starter? If you're planning on taking unpaid time off do FMLA. You exhaust your vacation bank then go on FMLA.
Somehow I was thinking FMLA did not apply to pilots at DAL..something about the number of hours we work per year being below the legal threshold. Guess that is incorrect?
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:49 AM
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What state is your base in?

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Michigan. Why?
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
Somehow I was thinking FMLA did not apply to pilots at DAL..something about the number of hours we work per year being below the legal threshold. Guess that is incorrect?
Well, there was a little debate about that, and there was talk of putting a line in some bill in DC to state that our hrs equate to full time. As far as I know, the company does not mess with us asking for FMLA. Many have gotten it with no issues.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
So how good is Delta about granting personal time off for the birth of a child? Number 2 is due in January, and I was planning on taking all of my vacation around the birth (because....really...who wants vacation in January except for Argentinians?). Turns out, however, that to transition from NWA to DAL vacation year, fNWA guys are only going to be able to bid a small portion of our vacation between January and April. So much for the vacation plan, and I know the FMLA thing is a nonstarter, so how much luck have guys had in the past just saying, "Hey, I'm having a kid. Can I get a couple of unpaid weeks off?"

Hope so...because the wife is ****ed and my trip ends tomorrow!
Family Leave Act is a federal law - you can take up to 3 months unpaid off. Just let the CPO know what time you need off.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:47 AM
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OK. Thanks for the info guys.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:48 AM
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U.S. Department of Labor - Employment Standards Administration (ESA) - Wage and Hour Division (WHD) - Family and Medical Leave Act

If you are so inclined.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:05 AM
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Keep in mind you have one year to use up to twelve weeks of FMLA. I don't think you can break it up, but you can save that FMAL for the most appropriate time.

If you're going to take some unpaid time, and your wife has help right now to help a baby that doesn't actually do much but sleep, it may be worth considering spending the holidays with the family, when the kid actually can focus his/her eyes on you. Share the joy of Thanksgiving through Christmas with the family, and see if you can get the little one to say "Daddy" at a few months. It won't work, but that's not what matters...
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Well, there was a little debate about that, and there was talk of putting a line in some bill in DC to state that our hrs equate to full time. As far as I know, the company does not mess with us asking for FMLA. Many have gotten it with no issues.
For the record, the loophole in the law has not been changed yet, so pilots and FAs are still not legally eligible for FMLA because we are "part time workers" based on the numbers of hours paid per month. Most airlines, including Delta, have chosen to honor the intent of the FMLA law however.

Having used FMLA at two different airlines all I will say is that you will have no problem getting a leave at Delta but they also do not follow the "rules" as closely as others have chosen to do.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vprMatrix View Post
For the record, the loophole in the law has not been changed yet, so pilots and FAs are still not legally eligible for FMLA because we are "part time workers" based on the numbers of hours paid per month. Most airlines, including Delta, have chosen to honor the intent of the FMLA law however.

Having used FMLA at two different airlines all I will say is that you will have no problem getting a leave at Delta but they also do not follow the "rules" as closely as others have chosen to do.
I was looking to see if they passed that tidbit of legislation, and have not found it, so I am guessing that until an airline decides not to abide there will not be an official rule change.
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