Bar, has it exactly right!!

This is important and I dont think DPA is capable of doing what needs to be done now....

 

The ME airline issue is purely a Washington issue. America has been for sale since the Declaration of Independence was signed.

I don't hold much hope on ALPA influencing that. Do you?

 

I hold infinitely more hope that ALPA can versus the impotent CAPA or a bunch of stand alone unions.... SWAPA doesn't give a rat's ass about it since it will never affect them, so there's any help out the window. (Same thing with VX, JBLU, SAVE and the other small domestic carriers)The RJ players don't care since they aren't directly affected... and we have a .gov that is bound and determined to give American jobs to whatever country is bribing them with the most toys, gifts and free vacations. But as typhoon pilot says in another thread.. they are just a "little airline" that presents no threat to us so I guess I am just being paranoid...

If for no other reason, THIS is the reason that we need national unity with a voice that is heard. This is deregulation in the final phase... world deregulation... cabotage.... Chuck Shumer wants it. Barry Owebama wants it...

 

No question, ALPA is best prepared to serve US pilots going forward in this regard. That I know for certain.....

 

OMG ALPA now more than ever.

 

Nothing good happens to a sheep.

If you don't contact your congressmen and senators over H.R. 3488, then you deserve to get treated like one.

 

Well all you church skipping heathens, did my post get turned from a molehill to a mountain or what.

I agree ALPA has more influence than any other union or union group. That said, America is for sale, wake up, look around.

Heck, T doesn't even back the PAC and he's dogging me?

I have no hope of ALPA legally stemming the Mid East influence.

 

Lobbying will never work for ALPA when their political opponents are larger and funded to the hilt. Even if ALPA had 100% participation for the PAC, they still would be woefully underfunded.

That said, same goes for CAPA and DPA.

Only way ALPA would get noticed and leverage is an SOS. What do you save that for, cabotage, foreign ownership, baseball style arbitration, a pre clearance facility in the ME, what? What is going to be so important that the ultimate leverage will need to be used?

More importantly, will the leadership of ALPA have the gonads to back one up and will the membership have the rocks to unify and do it?

Not sure about the current leader. Seems way too political and interested in his next career move. Always has even when he was here.

Open to ideas if anyone has them vis a vis the career killer potential events that are on the radar.

FIIGMO, want to weigh in as you said, "ALPA is the best prepared to serve the pilots going forward." How so? TOGA LK, goes for you as well, and don't get into DPA v ALPA. We have already established that the DPA alone would have no effect on these major issues.

T, you were correct in your post as well about aligned interests. You went on to say, "If for no other reason, THIS is the reason that we need national unity with a voice that is heard. This is deregulation in the final phase... world deregulation... cabotage.... Chuck Shumer wants it. Barry Owebama wants it..."

How do you obtain that unity even within ALPA? Two majors out of three belong and a couple handfuls of regionals. What in your estimation can ALPA do to thwart the greatest threat you mention, cabotage?

 

Thanks, DAL 88 Driver. Very much appreciated.

 

No, not mind games. Just a screening process. All airlines have them, and most pilots have no idea what the screening process is designed to target. I don't even know for sure what Janus was screening for, but there is object evidence to support the thesis that one item he was screening for was a basic disbelief in unions. A well designed screening process can do this without ever asking the questions directly.

I know talking about the Delta culture is like touching the third rail in politics. Guys like you immediately swarm in to punish with name calling galore, the infidel that dares discuss the culture. It means nothing to me. I don't care about being accepted into your culture...especially if the price for membership is accepting a prohibition of discussion topics.

Carl