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Old 12-30-2013 | 04:11 PM
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I need to get wise on a GS question...

How does a trip on a GS that spills b/w bid periods work/pay? The kicker is I'm going from a reg line to a Resv line.
Old 12-30-2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by index
That is correct. But it's not until you reach the 415(c) limit of $52,000 (up from the $51,000 limit in 2013).

For 2014, you can put in $17,500 of your own pretax money (another $5,500 if you're 50 or older). The company kicks in their 15% until the total amount hits $52,000. At that point, they keep paying you the 15% as ordinary income. It'll show up on your check in the left hand column of your paycheck under "Earnings" as "DC Excess"
When the DPDC account closes and if you elect to dump it into DPSP will that effect the yearly max deposit amount?
Old 12-30-2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I predict, based on past performance, that only a small percentage of us will "push to test," and the vast majority will happily and/or cluelessly tether themselves to Mother Delta.
I would say most pilots are clueless, and what they do know comes from company publications! Every single pilot has to log onto Deltanet and Icrew and both places are replete with company propaganda. On the other side we have the union doing there best to get info our to the pilots, but it's a fine line they have to tow....unfortunately! On top of that many pilots don't read emails from the union and or never go to the union web site.
How do we fix this? Unless there's 100% involvement of the pilot group we are fighting an uphill battle.
Old 12-30-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Very disappointing:

MEC Alert 13-21 reads like a company bulletin. It goes over the company's new rule interpretation and then lays out the punishment you can expect if you don't follow the new policy.

The "in our view" sentence is weak and does not inspire much confidence in the union position.

I don't think this Alert is going to give fortitude to many reserve pilots to ignore those threatening calls from scheduling to acknowledge 10 hours prior.

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Old 12-30-2013 | 05:06 PM
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I'm not quite sure what people wanted the union to say?
Old 12-30-2013 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
I'm not quite sure what people wanted the union to say?
I wanted them to either say, "You are not obligated to report for a trip before 1900 on your first day", or "we have negotiated a new PWA section"
Old 12-30-2013 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
When the DPDC account closes and if you elect to dump it into DPSP will that effect the yearly max deposit amount?
No. It will have no effect. The 415(c) limits apply towards your contributions and the company's contributions for each year individually.
Old 12-30-2013 | 06:15 PM
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they're probably really sweating after the christmas we just had. i bet there will be a ton more green slips going out. good thing we didn't hire
14 greenies in MSP/320/FO! Yes...we're overstaffed.
Old 12-30-2013 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
So far, much of the focus has been on long call assignments - I was just pointing out that a similar conflict exists for conversion to short call as well. If a pilot elects to use the PWA minimum acknowledgement for assignment to short call, he would never be able to actually sit short call. Or, at the very least, his short call start time would be pushed back a minimum of 9 hours.
A pilot could use this to fine tune their SC periods. Let's say that they assign you a 0400 SC period, and you would rather have a 1000 SC call. Well, just call scheduling at 2400 (well outside the 1 hour PWA minimum) to acknowledge the SC assignment and be sure to remind them that you won't be legal to actually start your short call for at least 10 hours.

I'm happy to see ALPA taking a hard stand on this. The problem is, even if ALPA fights through the whole grievance process on this, there is no guarantee they would win. Though the 117 conflicts don't actually make our contract illegal, they do make it unworkable. There must be some legal precedence already established in case law. I just wonder whom it would favor, the company, or the pilots?
Nothing in 117 makes our contract unworkable. Long call going to 19 hours when, by the company's own admission "most" conversions happen around the 16 hour mark is far from some new unworkable catastrophe. You can still be on short call too, because your "required schedule check" is now, like it always has been, NLT 2am on your first work day, so then plus 10 hours 117 rest, so you can always get a noon short call on day one, and then be notified of additional short calls while on short call, provided you are notified of your 10 or more hour rest period at that point.

Whatever the company loses because of this was not only completely preventable by constructively engaging DALPA for the year+ they knew this was coming. But they waited til the last second and forced a potential crisis by refusing to negotiate and trying to change the contract by memo and putting us on a perpetual 2 hour fantasy leash that doesn't exist and putting the pilots in the position of putting out the company's self induced helmet fire that they got while counting their money and enjoying their 3 year JV balancing window by getting us to hopefully self gut our own contract.

And now in the 11th hour it appears they are basically saying "that's right, and y'all ain't gonna do jack about it neither".
Old 12-30-2013 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Nothing in 117 makes our contract unworkable. Long call going to 19 hours when, by the company's own admission "most" conversions happen around the 16 hour mark is far from some new unworkable catastrophe. You can still be on short call too, because your "required schedule check" is now, like it always has been, NLT 2am on your first work day, so then plus 10 hours 117 rest, so you can always get a noon short call on day one, and then be notified of additional short calls while on short call, provided you are notified of your 10 or more hour rest period at that point.

Whatever the company loses because of this was not only completely preventable by constructively engaging DALPA for the year+ they knew this was coming. But they waited til the last second and forced a potential crisis by refusing to negotiate and trying to change the contract by memo and putting us on a perpetual 2 hour fantasy leash that doesn't exist and putting the pilots in the position of putting out the company's self induced helmet fire that they got while counting their money and enjoying their 3 year JV balancing window by getting us to hopefully self gut our own contract.

And now in the 11th hour it appears they are basically saying "that's right, and y'all ain't gonna do jack about it neither".

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