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Check Essential 02-04-2014 06:03 PM

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GogglesPisano 02-04-2014 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1574364)
Could someone please explain what the difference between the yes/no options for "award flying on 7am PCS run" when doing generic white slipping with parameters. If the trip meets your selected parameters aren't you going to be awarded the trip regardless of whether or not you selected yes or no?

A same day/next day WS is a proffer, unless you check "yes," to that box, in which case you may be given the WS for the next day without notification.

But don't quote me.

TeddyKGB 02-04-2014 06:08 PM

I thought by selecting yes you are then on the hook and obligated to check your schedule after the 7am PCS run and if there is a next day trip then you are on the hook for it, no proffer. Not sure. After 4 years with Delta I could sure use a PWA for Dummies book.

ATL7ER 02-04-2014 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1574436)
LOL. But if the guy calls in sick at 9am I can still get it as a WS same day. Either way I'm going to get it so I don't see the difference between the yes/no choice?

If you check yes then the 0700 PCS run can award you a next day trip AND it is treated the same as a beyond next day trip award. IE you are responsible for showing up and scheds is not required to contact you about it.

If you check no then PCS will not award the next day trip to you and , if it isn't awarded to someone who checked yes on the 0700 run, they may call you manually(seniority order of course for the WS) to offer the next day trip. The difference there is that if you don't want the next day trip they have placed on your sched then don't take the call and don't contact them....you have no obligation in that case if they could not contact you.

PWA 23.E.3.
PCS requests will be processed:
a. automatically by the PCS system for:
1) beyond next day, and
2) next day at pilot’s request (0700E run only).

4. A pilot who submits a PCS request for a beyond next day rotation, or a next-day rotation under Section 23 E. 3. a. 2), is responsible for ascertaining whether his request has been granted and acknowledging his award. Crew Scheduling is not required to notify a pilot
of such an award.

Bottom line: If you check yes make sure your WS criteria reflect something you are really willing to fly because if PCS awards it for next day it is yours. If you check no then they may still call for a next day WS but as long as you don't answer the phone you can see what it is and then decide. If you don't want it just don't call them back or acknowledge the trip on icrew.

nwaf16dude 02-04-2014 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1574328)
Au contraire. More than 5,700 (and growing) disagree with your premise.

I'll believe that when the cards are filed with the NMB. DPA would be like firing your lawyer and hiring a first year law student.

TeddyKGB 02-04-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 1574447)
If you check yes then the 0700 PCS run can award you a next day trip AND it is treated the same as a beyond next day trip award. IE you are responsible for showing up and scheds is not required to contact you about it.

If you check no then PCS will not award the next day trip to you and , if it isn't awarded to someone who checked yes on the 0700 run, they may call you manually(seniority order of course for the WS) to offer the next day trip. The difference there is that if you don't want the next day trip they have placed on your sched then don't take the call and don't contact them....you have no obligation in that case if they could not contact you.

PWA 23.E.3.
PCS requests will be processed:
a. automatically by the PCS system for:
1) beyond next day, and
2) next day at pilot’s request (0700E run only).

4. A pilot who submits a PCS request for a beyond next day rotation, or a next-day rotation under Section 23 E. 3. a. 2), is responsible for ascertaining whether his request has been granted and acknowledging his award. Crew Scheduling is not required to notify a pilot
of such an award.

Bottom line: If you check yes make sure your WS criteria reflect something you are really willing to fly because if PCS awards it for next day it is yours. If you check no then they may still call for a next day WS but as long as you don't answer the phone you can see what it is and then decide. If you don't want it just don't call them back or acknowledge the trip on icrew.

Thanks ATL7ER. Took 4 years but I think I finally get it. Good post.

tsquare 02-04-2014 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1574328)
Au contraire. More than 5,700 (and growing) disagree with your premise.

this garbage again?

tsquare 02-04-2014 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1574363)
16 76ER B Positions went unfilled. And yes, The company is contemplating awarding some new hires into the ER.


Scoop

Of course, the reality is that they will rarely see the -ER..... 75er maybe.. but not the 76..... which means they will be flying with me. hehehehehehe

tsquare 02-04-2014 06:52 PM

Did anybody see the article in the WSJ today about the pilot shortage?

forgot to bid 02-04-2014 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1574465)
Did anybody see the article in the WSJ today about the pilot shortage?

Simple solution to that pilot shortage issue, end the age 65 rule and replace it with "as long as you have a first class medical".

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