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Old 02-16-2014 | 04:22 PM
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Old 02-16-2014 | 04:26 PM
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I'd like an answer to this:
How much will mainline give up (and how much are they willing to give) to bring scope in house? There are older guys that don't have long until retirement. That group is the majority of mainline guys right now. Think they'd be willing to jump on this idea? The younger crowd has learned their lessons with scope.
Old 02-16-2014 | 04:32 PM
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I see better now what you're saying, but I have too many kids running around saying "momma" to get away with typing any more on the computer than this one long long sentence.
FTB's kids call him "momma"?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Old 02-16-2014 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
... but I have too many kids running around saying "momma" ...
Hell, I'm still doing that!
Old 02-16-2014 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
... but I have too many kids running around saying "momma" ...
Hell, I'm still doing that!
You call FTB momma?? Wait.....I'm confused?
Old 02-16-2014 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I'd like an answer to this:
How much will mainline give up (and how much are they willing to give) to bring scope in house? There are older guys that don't have long until retirement. That group is the majority of mainline guys right now. Think they'd be willing to jump on this idea? The younger crowd has learned their lessons with scope.
Well...in C2012 we gave up 33% of our profit sharing money, just to bring a bunch of 50 seat RJ flying 'in house', to the 717. No Old Guy already at Delta is going to bid the 717, but they are hiring RJ pilots right now to fly them.

C2012 didn't do squat for my retirement funding, or any other old guy's retirement plan, so I guess we'll have to stay to 65....

I already paid for Scope once, in 1993, when I was bumped off my MD88 Capt. seat and I was replaced by an RJ Capt. Now I've paid for scope again.

Oh, and what do you think helped put Delta into bankruptcy?

Could it be the debt that Leo the CEO ran up buying 500 RJ's?

The "Old Guys" 42% pay cut and lost retirement funding has been paying that debt off too.
Old 02-16-2014 | 05:14 PM
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Anyone got info on security issue happening in ANC today?
Old 02-16-2014 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Well...in C2012 we gave up 33% of our profit sharing money, just to bring a bunch of 50 seat RJ flying 'in house', to the 717. No Old Guy already at Delta is going to bid the 717, but they are hiring RJ pilots right now to fly them.

C2012 didn't do squat for my retirement funding, or any other old guy's retirement plan, so I guess we'll have to stay to 65....

I already paid for Scope once, in 1993, when I was bumped off my MD88 Capt. seat and I was replaced by an RJ Capt. Now I've paid for scope again.

Oh, and what do you think helped put Delta into bankruptcy?

Could it be the debt that Leo the CEO ran up buying 500 RJ's?

The "Old Guys" 42% pay cut and lost retirement funding has been paying that debt off too.
That was my point as well.. Senior "old guys" have to make up financially for lost time. I don't see a long term investment to bring scope back by some of the more senior guys (which I understand).
Old 02-16-2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
, our survey results are SHOW ME THE MONEY!

First: 4833 is hardly money worth showing anyone. Especially factoring in the profit sharing giveback and our increased health care costs (just for starters).

Second: how did you get to see the survey results? No one I talk to has seen them. Can you please post them?

C12 was (is) a strategic failure on many levels; there's no way around it.
Old 02-16-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Well...in C2012 we gave up 33% of our profit sharing money, just to bring a bunch of 50 seat RJ flying 'in house', to the 717. No Old Guy already at Delta is going to bid the 717, but they are hiring RJ pilots right now to fly them.

C2012 didn't do squat for my retirement funding, or any other old guy's retirement plan, so I guess we'll have to stay to 65....

I already paid for Scope once, in 1993, when I was bumped off my MD88 Capt. seat and I was replaced by an RJ Capt. Now I've paid for scope again.

Oh, and what do you think helped put Delta into bankruptcy?

Could it be the debt that Leo the CEO ran up buying 500 RJ's?

The "Old Guys" 42% pay cut and lost retirement funding has been paying that debt off too.
That's one way to look at it. Another is that the old guys voted yes, not for 717 flying, but for the "time value of money" argument; get paid now or you'll have to wait for a new PWA for another 2+ years cuz of plan B (SCARY!)
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