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Old 02-16-2014 | 07:42 AM
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If you're an ATL88B and get a one-day two leg GS (LGA), but both legs are DH can you deviate from the DH trip? Nice work if you can get it.
Old 02-16-2014 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay5150
FYI. Was down in the lounge the other day when Richard came through. I was at a computer and he walked up an introduced himself and started chatting. We talked about the current IROP and the one before. He used a colloquialism to describe that first one that is a phrase most of us on here might use......pretty funny. I won't repeat on a public forum just in case it's bad form.

He went on to say that DBMS is totally antiquated and wants it re-done.

That we should be getting and acknowledging re-routes during situations like that right on an-easy to use app on our phone with just a couple of clicks.
I didn't get into any big issues as he was trying to talk to as many folks as he could and I didn't want to hold him up.

Whatever reservations people have about him, guy knows airlines, and that is good for a change......*cough* Leo *cough*.....
I understand the interest in this, however it would be a huge gain for the company. yes it would help during IROP's but just like when we got the CNO system it would have to be limited to just IROP's. I don't want the company to have the ability to say that I was inversed assigned because they sent a text or an app says the message was delivered.
Old 02-16-2014 | 07:46 AM
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Does anyone know how you use the bank to buy extra vacation days? How much does it cost to buy individual days as opposed to an entire week. Can purchased vacation days only be added to an existing awarded vacation slot? I spent about 30 minutes in the PWA this morning and gave up.
Old 02-16-2014 | 07:47 AM
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Speaking of CNO has anyone else not been getting notified of delayed departures? Calling Accommodations (and being put on hold) to delay pick-up is getting old.
Old 02-16-2014 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk

Lastly, the answer to your question. "YES," we would still have FAR117, whether or not the accident (Colgan 3407) had happened like it did. Do you remember what happened a only one month prior to the Colgan accident? Do an internet research of Airbus landing in the Hudson river, in January 2009. (Ring a bell?)
I'm afraid you're misinformed on this.

The legislation was bogged down and effectively tabled, despite Sully's patronage. It wasn't until the families of the Flt 3407 victims embarked on a grassroots lobbying campaign with influential MoC that the law moved forward. I would have done the same if I was one of them. Without their persistence, the law would not have been passed.

So, yes, FAR117 really is as simple as a guy not being able to do a stall recovery. Numerous articles on how the process unfolded. Here's one.

Flight 3407 Families Succeed in Forcing New Safety Regulations for Airlines - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com
Old 02-16-2014 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Speaking of CNO has anyone else not been getting notified of delayed departures? Calling Accommodations (and being put on hold) to delay pick-up is getting old.
Changing a report time with less than 10 hours notice has repercussions under 117 - maybe they just don't want to deal with it
Old 02-16-2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay5150
FYI. Was down in the lounge the other day when Richard came through. I was at a computer and he walked up an introduced himself and started chatting. We talked about the current IROP and the one before. He used a colloquialism to describe that first one that is a phrase most of us on here might use......pretty funny. I won't repeat on a public forum just in case it's bad form.

He went on to say that DBMS is totally antiquated and wants it re-done.

That we should be getting and acknowledging re-routes during situations like that right on an-easy to use app on our phone with just a couple of clicks.

I didn't get into any big issues as he was trying to talk to as many folks as he could and I didn't want to hold him up.

Whatever reservations people have about him, guy knows airlines, and that is good for a change......*cough* Leo *cough*.....
Can't argue with his DBMS comments, but our CNO system does basically what he describes - we get text message of a reroute and send an acknowledgment reply. The problem I ran into during one on of the last big IROPs was when they sent me a reroute that was not FAR legal and I could not get ahold of anyone. Whatever system they come up with needs to have two way communications abilities. Is it true that the FA's already have something like this with their new fangeled phones?
Old 02-16-2014 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Speaking of CNO has anyone else not been getting notified of delayed departures? Calling Accommodations (and being put on hold) to delay pick-up is getting old.
Under 117 if the company calls you to delay your departure with less then 10 hours notice you can consider your rest broken and demand 10 hrs off from that point. Duty day starts at scheduled report unless you are given 10 hours notice of the change. I suspect they have stopped calling.
Old 02-16-2014 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Does anyone know how you use the bank to buy extra vacation days? How much does it cost to buy individual days as opposed to an entire week. Can purchased vacation days only be added to an existing awarded vacation slot? I spent about 30 minutes in the PWA this morning and gave up.
There is a guide on Deltanet that describes it.

Essentially you can buy 12N (Supp. Vac. Days) through the full service bank option 3 in DBMS.

You buy per day at 3:15 each, with a max of 10 days purchased.

If you buy after the primary vacation bid is open, they will be added to the end of your most recently awarded week when you made the request.

If you buy after March bid period starts but before April 1, then you can have them placed at the beginning or end of any week you have bid.

If you buy after April 1, they can only be placed if there is an available week adjacent to the weeks you have been awarded.
Old 02-16-2014 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
There is a guide on Deltanet that describes it.

Essentially you can buy 12N (Supp. Vac. Days) through the full service bank option 3 in DBMS.

You buy per day at 3:15 each, with a max of 10 days purchased.

If you buy after the primary vacation bid is open, they will be added to the end of your most recently awarded week when you made the request.

If you buy after March bid period starts but before April 1, then you can have them placed at the beginning or end of any week you have bid.

If you buy after April 1, they can only be placed if there is an available week adjacent to the weeks you have been awarded.
Thank you Shiznit!
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