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Old 02-18-2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
EDIT--just saw the further info you posted: " recalled in 2007 and came back 2/2008."
that's the year that didn't count, so you don't have 13 yrs duty and thus don't have 4 weeks vacation yet this year. To which I ask: WHAT were you thinking delaying your return by a year?? (I was thinking "still in bankruptcy, don't trust them, not gonna get burned again!" when I punched back to mil leave...)
I was doing the book thing, moved to LA, and was the COO for a large conservative nonprofit think tank. I deferred because I was making a lot of money to be a white collar guy. Hated it. My wife convinced me that I was happier, a better husband and father without the Hollywood gig. So, I came back. She was right. Much younger and much more mature.
Old 02-18-2014 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
On a different note I have flown with two guys who had the new Vette on order but no one who has actually taken delivery or driven one. Anyone driven one who might have some comments good or bad?
I have three friends who have taken delivery and they all really enjoy the car, one had an R8 before and he likes his Vette better.
Old 02-18-2014 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I think this solves the clown shortage.
Old 02-18-2014 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Sure... I guess. Whether it leaves a vacuum or not can be debated as to whether our filling of that vacuum was lucrative or not. If it were, I am pretty sure this management team would not leave it behind... they seem pretty adept at making money. Since we pilots want more money, better benefits, fewer days work, and more pilots on the property, one could make an argument that driving DAL's costs higher might contribute to pulling out of lower yielding markets. I cannot make that argument any more than you or anybody else on here can make the counter that we lose money by leaving. We just don't have enough information as workerbees. Give you an example. UAL started flying into all our Africa destinations, and lost money on many of them because some markets just won't support 2 or more carriers. So they left, and we started making money again.

NWA was huge in NRT, no doubt. It sucks when something you were a part of goes away. It's just business. It's like selling a house that you KNOW is worth more than the market is offering. We've all been there. Many on here think the cargo operation in ANC was making money. I challenge any of them to PROVE that assertion. Same with NRT. PROVE it with numbers and not conjecture. It killed me that we left KBP, BUD, OTP... etc etc etc... but if they weren't making money, there is no reason to fly there. Unfortunately. Time to move on to where we CAN make money and lots of it.


Got it. Trust the company, they know what they're doing.
Old 02-18-2014 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
And there is your 2014 meme faces.
Old 02-18-2014 | 08:44 PM
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ftb went to a civil war reenactment yesterday.

Old 02-18-2014 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I was doing the book thing, moved to LA, and was the COO for a large conservative nonprofit think tank. I deferred because I was making a lot of money to be a white collar guy. Hated it. My wife convinced me that I was happier, a better husband and father without the Hollywood gig. So, I came back. She was right. Much younger and much more mature.
Wait! Wait! Wait! Wait! Hold it a minute!


You did not vote for Obama. & Papa John?

World is spinning the other way Buzz! The other way!
Old 02-19-2014 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by trlaketige
Got it. Trust the company, they know what they're doing.
That is about all you can do. They run the business.
Old 02-19-2014 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I never went on mil leave. I was already retired. I was furloughed and did defer recall for a bit. My DOH was 6/01, furloughed 11/01, recalled in 2007 and came back 2/2008. My "benefits start date" according to the vacation peeps is August of 2002.
In many contracts today and prior to about 2001 at Delta furlough time did not count for anything. DALPA was the first union to push for and get longevity credit for furlough time. For those on long furloughs it is very significant improvement. It made for some nice pay bumps also for some NW pilots. They did not have it in their contract.
It also used to be and perhaps still is that if you took a voluntary leave you also lost seniority. That surprised at least one person I know.
Old 02-19-2014 | 03:49 AM
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He was right about the merger, management structure and consolidation. He was wrong about the treatment of employees. Delta is still a good place to work and improving .....[/QUOTE]

How can you say that? Have you read this forum???
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